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RSW Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1188 Location: Arizona Joined: Sep 8^th, 2006	General thoughts on .28-30 - 2.0 Sep 4^th, 2020 at 1:46pm	Print Post
	Not wanting to step on gnoahhh's post about the .28-30, I'm starting a new thread. Would any of you who actually shoot the Stevens .28-30 that are willing, I would very much like to know what loads & bullets are working for you. Thank you in advance for any data you are willing to share. Randy Wright

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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2833 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: General thoughts on .28-30 - 2.0 Reply #1 - Sep 6^th, 2020 at 1:06pm	Print Post
	I played with the Lyman 285221 for a long time, but set that aside when I got a Hoch nose-pour 140 grain mould. I breech-seat that with a plugged case in my Stevens 44. I use 11.6 grains of SR4759 when I can find it. If not, a similar load of 4227. Since it's a 44 action, I use pistol primers.


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John Boy Ex Member	Re: General thoughts on .28-30 - 2.0 Reply #2 - Sep 6^th, 2020 at 3:00pm	Print Post
	Accurate 28-120B bullet/25gr RL7 in a Stevens 44 1/2 barrel (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Accurate Bullet is the clone of the original Ideal 287221 ... This series of bullets was designed by Chas. H. Herrick for the .28-30-120 Stevens Rifle; the 120 grains weight is the factory bullet. Use 5 grains Unique with 120 grain bullet. (PB, FN, 90, 105, 120, 135, 150, 165, 180, also Perfection – TP is 420)
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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: General thoughts on .28-30 - 2.0 Reply #3 - Sep 6^th, 2020 at 3:03pm	Print Post
	Waterman what twist is your Stevens rifle.

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: General thoughts on .28-30 - 2.0 Reply #4 - Sep 6^th, 2020 at 3:04pm	Print Post
	What twist rate John Boy.

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John Boy Ex Member	Re: General thoughts on .28-30 - 2.0 Reply #5 - Sep 6^th, 2020 at 3:15pm	Print Post
	Quote: What twist rate John Boy. John - don't have a clue, never measured it. Here's a post though from the ASSRA forum with a 44 1/2 barrel also Quote: My 28-30 (a probable 1st year 44-1/2 52) has a 14" twist but a larger than standard groove diameter of 0.293". I use the Accurate 28-130B bullet cast 5% Sn and 12.5 grains IMR 4227. It shoots in the .2s at 100 but I have not shot it at 200. So RSW, there you have loading data for different bullets and powder charges


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John Boy Ex Member	Re: General thoughts on .28-30 - 2.0 Reply #6 - Sep 6^th, 2020 at 3:56pm	Print Post
	RSW, here is some more loading data that I wrote down from somewhere for the 120gr bullet: 1:20 alloy 30gr DuPont Fg 15.7 gr IMR 4198


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Sure shot Oldtimer Offline Posts: 904 Location: East central Iowa Joined: Jun 22^nd, 2020	Re: General thoughts on .28-30 - 2.0 Reply #7 - Sep 6^th, 2020 at 6:05pm	Print Post
	Anyone have load data for the .28-30 using heavier cast bullets such as 145 grain,using 4227? I have a 44 1/2, 1-14" twist.


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: General thoughts on .28-30 - 2.0 Reply #8 - Sep 6^th, 2020 at 6:48pm	Print Post
	I fear your twist will not be fast enough based on my own experience and the length will end up being to long to stabilize in a 14 twist.

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: General thoughts on .28-30 - 2.0 Reply #9 - Sep 6^th, 2020 at 7:00pm	Print Post
	The real advantage of the 28-30-120 is that it can stay supersonic out to 200 yards and the wind drift is about the same as a 32-40. But if wanting to change to a heavier bullet to just try and beat the wind that advantage may no longer exist.

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Sure shot Oldtimer Offline Posts: 904 Location: East central Iowa Joined: Jun 22^nd, 2020	Re: General thoughts on .28-30 - 2.0 Reply #10 - Sep 6^th, 2020 at 7:52pm	Print Post
	JLouis wrote on Sep 6^th, 2020 at 6:48pm: I fear your twist will not be fast enough based on my own experience and the length will end up being to long to stabilize in a 14 twist. I fear you may be correct,but the 145 grain bullets are all I have to try,as I do not have any casting equipment. The 145 grain bullets were the lightest bullets I could find from anyone selling cast bullets online.
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RSW Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1188 Location: Arizona Joined: Sep 8^th, 2006	Re: General thoughts on .28-30 - 2.0 Reply #11 - Sep 6^th, 2020 at 8:34pm	Print Post
	Thank you all for your response to my request for data. It is very much appreciated. I now have plenty to work with.

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