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stevenjay1 Participating Member Offline Living in the woods! Posts: 43 Location: So NH, But not too close to MA Joined: Mar 15^th, 2015	RRB No.1 Vs. No.1 1/2 Apr 24^th, 2020 at 6:50pm	Print Post
	Does anyone know if Remington used the same size block and hammer for the No.1 and No.1 1/2 Rolling Blocks or were they different sizes? Thanks, Steve

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Online Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16272 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: RRB No.1 Vs. No.1 1/2 Reply #1 - Apr 24^th, 2020 at 7:55pm	Print Post
	The #1 and #1 1/2 are identical internally. Only difference is the #1 1/2 is thinner side to side on the receiver. The 1 1/2 is flat sided. So yes the block and hammer from a #1 Sporting rifle is identical to a #1 1/2 Sporting rifle. And many military blocks and hammers will fit either, but shaped different in their spurs and no shield on the spurs.

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kootne Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 441 Location: Libby, Mt. Joined: Mar 6^th, 2012	Re: RRB No.1 Vs. No.1 1/2 Reply #2 - Apr 24^th, 2020 at 8:50pm	Print Post
	In the sporting rifles the hammers are the same. Every #1 I ever had or had apart is cut for a set trigger fly whether the rifle was made with a set trigger or not (which doesn't affect non set trigger function). The blocks will fit between the #1 and the #1-1/2 sporters but, #1's always used linear extractors to the best of my knowledge and experience and the #1-1/2's used a rotary extractor. I'm just guessing but there are probably military blocks that could be successfully substituted if needed.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Online Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16272 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: RRB No.1 Vs. No.1 1/2 Reply #3 - Apr 25^th, 2020 at 10:39am	Print Post
	One of my #1 1/2 Rollers: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) And a #1 Roller I have: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) As Kootne mentioned the extractors are different, so you'd need the extractor to go with the block and hammer.

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stevenjay1 Participating Member Offline Living in the woods! Posts: 43 Location: So NH, But not too close to MA Joined: Mar 15^th, 2015	Re: RRB No.1 Vs. No.1 1/2 Reply #4 - Apr 25^th, 2020 at 11:18am	Print Post
	Thanks for the information and pictures. The block is original to the gun but the hammer is off a military rifle. It works but it sure is klunkie looking. I also believe that the main spring is off a military rifle as well. I need to or would like to find an original sporting hammer and main spring. I do have an original No.1 sporting rifle and can see and field the difference when I handle both rifles. Steve

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kensmachine Oldtimer Offline Posts: 574 Joined: Nov 21^st, 2012	Re: RRB No.1 Vs. No.1 1/2 Reply #5 - Apr 25^th, 2020 at 12:50pm	Print Post
	3 things to do #1 keep an eye on ebay for a sporting hammer they show up. #2 get in touch with ken W to see if he has anything on hand (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) .#3 there's a lot of meat on a military hammer go after it with a grinder and files you can get a nice looking hammer out of one of those big hammers Ive done it a few times. Ken


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George Babits Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1106 Joined: Sep 27^th, 2012	Re: RRB No.1 Vs. No.1 1/2 Reply #6 - Apr 25^th, 2020 at 3:39pm	Print Post
	One other difference between the #1 and the #1 1/2 is the diameter of the barrel shank. The number `1 1/2 is smaller by quite a bit. George


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Online Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16272 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: RRB No.1 Vs. No.1 1/2 Reply #7 - Apr 25^th, 2020 at 3:49pm	Print Post
	stevenjay1 wrote on Apr 25^th, 2020 at 11:18am: Thanks for the information and pictures. The block is original to the gun but the hammer is off a military rifle. It works but it sure is klunkie looking. I also believe that the main spring is off a military rifle as well. I need to or would like to find an original sporting hammer and main spring. I do have an original No.1 sporting rifle and can see and field the difference when I handle both rifles. Steve This one I built up started out as a military block and hammer. As Ken said there's plenty of meat to reshape them to a Sporting look. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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.22Hepburn Oldtimer Offline Posts: 803 Location: Pennsylvania Joined: Feb 18^th, 2008	Re: RRB No.1 Vs. No.1 1/2 Reply #8 - Apr 30^th, 2020 at 6:50pm	Print Post
	Kootne, fyi, like #1 1/2's, #5's also have rotary extractors.


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art_ruggiero Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1111 Location: CT Joined: Dec 14^th, 2008	Re: RRB No.1 Vs. No.1 1/2 Reply #9 - May 14^th, 2020 at 5:26pm	Print Post
	the 1879 argentines have rotory extractors i have 3 art


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