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32-40 Rem
Apr 21st, 2020 at 6:16pm
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Am in the process of completing a rolling block #1 action in 32-40 Rem.( kind of misleading .310 bore) Cart. of the world book says 14gr 4198 with a 150 gr bullet for about 1300 fps. Is anyone out there shooting one and if so what would be a good load? Have a 1/10 twist barrel. Thanks


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Re: 32-40 Rem
Reply #1 - Apr 21st, 2020 at 6:48pm
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That sounds more like a 30-30 functionally.  Did you check its loads?
  

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Reply #2 - Apr 21st, 2020 at 7:06pm
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Not that exact load. But I shoot a Winchester model 94 carbine in 32-40. According to my log, 16.0gr of H4198 and a 170gr bullet was giving me around 1250fps from a 20" barrel.
  
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Reply #3 - Apr 21st, 2020 at 9:58pm
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I have been shooting my Brg BPCR /Hart 8 twist barrel/
32-40 Rem Hep for some years. ( yes, actually a 30 cal nom 300/308 bore and groove.)
My main load which I have shot in gong and in Schuetzen
matches is :  15.5 gr IMR 4227 under the Lyman 311299
bullet w/o gas check , but with a floral foam wad up against the base of the bullet. Should shoot well in your 10 twist barrel.
BTW, I have the original Dan T tight neck 32-40 RH reamer.
And yes, you can pretty much use 30-30 WCF data.
The case capacity is very close between the 30-30 and the 32-40 RH
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Reply #4 - Apr 22nd, 2020 at 2:32am
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Why is a .30 caliber bullet in that case called a .32-40?  Same case used for .30-30, .32-40, .38-55, + a few more.
  

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Re: 32-40 Rem
Reply #5 - Apr 22nd, 2020 at 10:12am
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Schuetzenmiester wrote on Apr 22nd, 2020 at 2:32am:
Why is a .30 caliber bullet in that case called a .32-40?  Same case used for .30-30, .32-40, .38-55, + a few more.


Technically it's called a ".32-40 Remington" not the same cartridge as the .32-40 Ballard we commonly know. Remington made their version with the smaller .31 caliber bullet, but I'm guessing they didn't want to call it a .31-40 and make people think it wasn't as big as the competition.
  

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Re: 32-40 Rem
Reply #6 - Apr 22nd, 2020 at 1:32pm
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Showing my lack of knowledge, but thought the .32-40 Rem. used a straight taper .30-40 size case.
Significantly more power than a .32-40 B&M/Win.
Similar to a .38-50 Rem. more powerful than a .38-55 B&M/Win.
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Reply #7 - Apr 22nd, 2020 at 2:15pm
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Marlinguy,
The funny part of this "name game" is that the 
32-40 Remington was introduced in 1871/72 in their
No 1 roller that had been introduced in 1870 and then later in the No 3-Rem Hep. and Yes, it is what we might call actually a true 30 cal. COW lists it as 0.309" bullet and bore diameter would have been/is nominally 0.300.
I have to wonder what was so different to call it a 32 cal rather than a 30 ( European habit to refer to bore rather than groove diameter?)
It is noted that there were several of the earliest cartridges in the 1860s - rimfires that were "32 cal" in pistols. they were 0.316" diameter bullets, so I suppost that was a logical roundup to 32

The 32-40 Ballard was not introduced until 1884 and it is indeed a true 32 cal . Bullets at 0.320. Marlin picked up the ctg along with the Ballard rifles. then Winchester started chambering rifles in it in 1886. And later "stole" it, calling it the 32-40 WCF,etc
Actually there were/are many "32 cal" ctges that are NOT:
32-30 Rem, 32-35 Stevens of 1880 were 0.312",
Later 32-20 WCF is also 0.312 (1882). 
As said, they seemed to "round up" the number to 32.

There is also a true 30 cal , and also named accordingly:
the 30-30 Wesson, 0.308"
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Reply #8 - Apr 22nd, 2020 at 5:59pm
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Thanks everyone for the information. Steve Garbe did an article a few years back on the round and got me interested in it. I ordered the reamer from Dave Kiff as he had it on file. Got to get some wood and finish it up. I have a Low Wall in 30-30 Wesson as well I play with from time to time. Thanks again.
  
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Reply #9 - Apr 23rd, 2020 at 7:24pm
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JHM, click on your handle and look below and there is a link to your last 5 posts. Bring up the one you want and reply and it will pop back up.
  
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Reply #10 - Apr 24th, 2020 at 2:19am
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marlinguy wrote on Apr 22nd, 2020 at 10:12am:
Schuetzenmiester wrote on Apr 22nd, 2020 at 2:32am:
Why is a .30 caliber bullet in that case called a .32-40?  Same case used for .30-30, .32-40, .38-55, + a few more.


Technically it's called a ".32-40 Remington" not the same cartridge as the .32-40 Ballard we commonly know. Remington made their version with the smaller .31 caliber bullet, but I'm guessing they didn't want to call it a .31-40 and make people think it wasn't as big as the competition.

Geez Vall, Keeping all this straight in your memory, how do you have room for anything else?   Cheesy
  

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