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Dec 16th, 2019 at 4:05pm
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Last month I carried my Ballard 40-85 pacific most days, the one day I took my Hawken for a walk I found them. The .58 cal worked with one shot prone.
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Reply #1 - Dec 16th, 2019 at 4:55pm
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Enjoy the pleasures of your harvest and thanks for sharing.
  

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Great job!  I shot one deer with a 58 caliber round ball and was impressed as I had never used a ball in my 50 Hawkens.  Now the great state of California won't let me hunt with lead so my muzzleloaders don't see much action.  Tom
  
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Reply #3 - Dec 16th, 2019 at 9:12pm
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Congrats on the elk, nice picture, nice country side. I have no idea what made me think of it, but there's a gas stop in Roundup that has some half way decent road food. Anyway, sorry to drift off a bit.
  
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Reply #4 - Dec 16th, 2019 at 9:40pm
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KW,
Congrats on the elk!  Getting one with a front stuffer is something!  I'm still in pursuit until the end of the month - I looked at the Gibbs but I'm not going to change up my gear to change my karma, it's going to be with the high wall or not at all... Grin
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Reply #5 - Dec 17th, 2019 at 1:13pm
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Kim,
YOu make me look like a "cheater"  hunting with my 1886
Win lightweight 45-70 for much of my deer hunting over the years
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Reply #6 - Dec 17th, 2019 at 2:29pm
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I like big lever guns too, last year toted my 1881 45-70 marlin around. Did throw some lead at coyotes but no Wapiti. Hardest hunt I remember doing is with a Browning '86 win. in 1986.  Was in a raging blizzard in Michigan's upper peninsula...., man was it cold and rude. Still remember the "breeze" coming off lake superior! 
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Reply #7 - Dec 17th, 2019 at 4:46pm
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That's a great deer....nicely done and with a ML too Smiley.
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Reply #8 - Dec 18th, 2019 at 2:37am
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Fine looking bull, and a handsome rifle to boot! Did you build it by chance? 

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Reply #9 - Dec 18th, 2019 at 5:49am
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Well done!  I wish I were there.

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Reply #10 - Dec 18th, 2019 at 7:05am
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Yes I built the Hawken(and a Dimick) last year. Made the  lock, triggers, forged guard and 2 pc. forged/brazed buttplate, a early style feature. Its as accurate as I could make could make using my ref. material and looking at the originals in Cody/Helena. I did not make the breech snail, as I probably should have, its the typical late style.
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Reply #11 - Dec 18th, 2019 at 10:31am
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Very nice elk, and gun! Congratulations! 
I last hunted elk with my .40-85 Pacific also, and the last day of my hunt I had a chance at a nice bull in the morning. But my only shot was through a small opening in the trees, and when I touched it off the bullet clipped a limb and the bull simply trotted off unharmed. That was one of those moments I've played over and over again in my head, and wished I'd been more patient and waited for  better shot. Just glad I didn't wound the bull and have that on my mind forever.
  

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Reply #12 - Dec 18th, 2019 at 11:09am
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Toting the pacific around the mtns. and hills is sure a work out, they are not light rifles! I have to lots of fencing work here and it reminds of carrying my rock bar around! I have yet to hang mine on my horse, but have slung sharps, no. 1 rollers and such and my '76 rifle on the pony, find I need to frequently shove my saddle over. Risky carrying a rife over the pommel in timber, but sometimes do.
Glad you got a shot though, great fun. Our season runs till feb. for cows here. Gotta love that .40! no problem with a 200 yd shot with a tang sight. The locals here think I am nuts!
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Reply #13 - Dec 18th, 2019 at 12:26pm
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KFW wrote on Dec 18th, 2019 at 11:09am:
Val
Toting the pacific around the mtns. and hills is sure a work out, they are not light rifles! I have to lots of fencing work here and it reminds of carrying my rock bar around! I have yet to hang mine on my horse, but have slung sharps, no. 1 rollers and such and my '76 rifle on the pony, find I need to frequently shove my saddle over. Risky carrying a rife over the pommel in timber, but sometimes do.
Glad you got a shot though, great fun. Our season runs till feb. for cows here. Gotta love that .40! no problem with a 200 yd shot with a tang sight. The locals here think I am nuts!
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I found a slip on sling to help with packing the Pacific around. Mine isn't a huge heavy barrel like my Pacific in .45-70 that the barrel is equal across the flats to the receiver. But it still probably weighs 10-11 lbs. I'd guess. The sling helps, but also is heavy on my old shoulders.
I love the .40 caliber cartridges in general, but for me the .40-85 Ballard is top of the heap! Brass is easily made for it, and mine is very consistent hits on the 650 yd. dinger. At 1000 yds. I'm less consistent, but that's me and not the gun.
I found my Pacific sealed in varnish for decades. The son of the owner told me he and his brother had removed the wood on numerous guns and brushed varnish on the metal of a dozen rifles! Even the rare tall midrange tang sight was varnished! It had all turned a muddy brown color over the decades. The two sons were both in their 80's when he sold it to me.

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Reply #14 - Dec 18th, 2019 at 1:29pm
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KFW wrote on Dec 18th, 2019 at 7:05am:
Just Jim
Yes I built the Hawken(and a Dimick) last year. Made the  lock, triggers, forged guard and 2 pc. forged/brazed buttplate, a early style feature. Its as accurate as I could make could make using my ref. material and looking at the originals in Cody/Helena. I did not make the breech snail, as I probably should have, its the typical late style.
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Wow! Impressive, sir! You don't meet many who have made their own triggers, let alone the lock. I raise my cup o' coffee to you!

And I love the story of the Ballard and it's careful preservation. Hard to imagine anyone doing so today. 
  
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