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butch lambert Full Member Offline Posts: 228 Location: Poetry, Texas Joined: Jun 21^st, 2006	32-20 loads Oct 17^th, 2019 at 5:57pm	Print Post
	I'm working on a 32-20 #2 Rolling Block. I have new brass and 100grain coated lead bullets. Do I use small rifle or pistol primers? The powder that I have is Hercules Unique and 2400, 4198, Winchester 452AA, 231, and 296. Are there better powders and what do I need to know?


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George Babits Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1151 Joined: Sep 27^th, 2012	Re: 32-20 loads Reply #1 - Oct 17^th, 2019 at 6:26pm	Print Post
	Butch, I use the small rifle primers for all my 32-20s and have found that 4227 powder works the best for me. One of my rifles is a #2 Rolling block. 2400 is pretty similiar to 4227, but I have always used 4227. In my 25-20SS I tried some 2400 just to see, but 4227 worked better. I do use a little heavier bullet. I think is is about 115 grain and has a gas check. I uuse the same load in all my 32-20s. George


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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1634 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: 32-20 loads Reply #2 - Oct 17^th, 2019 at 6:40pm	Print Post
	Used 4.5 grains of unique with that hundred grain bullet for a nice mild load. Pistol primers work fine at those pressures .There are other loads at work just as well and maybe a little more velocity but that one will put a smile on your face and be adequately accurate for plinking out to a hundred and surprise you at times with accuracy. My favorite bullet for the 32-20 is the 3118


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butch lambert Full Member Offline Posts: 228 Location: Poetry, Texas Joined: Jun 21^st, 2006	Re: 32-20 loads Reply #3 - Oct 18^th, 2019 at 10:00am	Print Post
	Thanks for your suggestions. Wow, I need to figure out how the throw 3-5 grains of powder! I always thought 20 grains was a light load for the cartridges I shoot.


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4060may Full Member Offline Posts: 196 Location: Richfield Joined: Jul 12^th, 2006	Re: 32-20 loads Reply #4 - Oct 18^th, 2019 at 10:38am	Print Post
	Butch If you can find an old Pacific Slide bar measure, I have a chart for the hole size to powder weight..I use this to drop all small charges, no bridging or sticking rotating drums..I have been using a copy of the 311008, and 4.7grs of SR7625 or 4.5grs of Unique...minute of Ram to 100yds I have 3 rifles chambered in 32-20, Win Lo-wall, No.2 Remington, H&R Handi Rifle


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craigster Oldtimer Offline Posts: 823 Location: lost coast CA Joined: Feb 20^th, 2011	Re: 32-20 loads Reply #5 - Oct 18^th, 2019 at 2:28pm	Print Post
	butch lambert wrote on Oct 18^th, 2019 at 10:00am: Thanks for your suggestions. Wow, I need to figure out how the throw 3-5 grains of powder! I always thought 20 grains was a light load for the cartridges I shoot. Lee dippers.


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beltfed Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1826 Location: Central Wi Joined: Dec 20^th, 2007	Re: 32-20 loads Reply #6 - Oct 18^th, 2019 at 4:16pm	Print Post
	Or a Lee Pistol Powder Measure They make a "traditional" one and also make an automatic one for progressive or turret presses beltfed/arnie


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butch lambert Full Member Offline Posts: 228 Location: Poetry, Texas Joined: Jun 21^st, 2006	Re: 32-20 loads Reply #7 - Oct 18^th, 2019 at 5:42pm	Print Post
	I guess the first thing I need to do is see if one of my BR throwers will work. I guess I could trickle it to the pan on my scale and pour it into the funnel into the case.


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George Babits Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1151 Joined: Sep 27^th, 2012	Re: 32-20 loads Reply #8 - Oct 18^th, 2019 at 6:26pm	Print Post
	Hey Butch, Just use your 2400 or 4227. Any load in the 32-20 is plenty mild. Why risk a double charge with Unique. That is funny powder. When I load it (38 Special, 45 AR, and 45 ACP), I use a Lyman 55(?) which works very well. My Unique loads are in the 5-6 grain range though. George


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Cbashooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1634 Location: Eastern Wa. Joined: Mar 31^st, 2018	Re: 32-20 loads Reply #9 - Oct 18^th, 2019 at 6:53pm	Print Post
	George Babits wrote on Oct 18^th, 2019 at 6:26pm: Hey Butch, Just use your 2400 or 4227. Any load in the 32-20 is plenty mild. Why risk a double charge with Unique. That is funny powder. When I load it (38 Special, 45 AR, and 45 ACP), I use a Lyman 55(?) which works very well. My Unique loads are in the 5-6 grain range though. George I don't know why you call Unique a funny powder? in a 32-20 case a double charge of unique at 4.5 shows up quite obviously. The ballistics are also quite uniform and accuracy quite nice. my angle is why use a more expensive larger charge of powder when you can use an inexpensive charge like unique?


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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: 32-20 loads Reply #10 - Oct 18^th, 2019 at 8:28pm	Print Post
	Have you ever tried Herco under the heavier 115 to 120 grain (not the 100gr and lighter weight) plain based bullets?

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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4482 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: 32-20 loads Reply #11 - Oct 19^th, 2019 at 12:30am	Print Post
	With the around 100 grain bullets like the Lee or Hensley and Gibbs #65 I've had good luck with 8 grains of 2400. With my current bullet, 311316, I use 5.2 grains of AA5 or 6 grains of AA9.


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: 32-20 loads Reply #12 - Oct 19^th, 2019 at 3:48am	Print Post
	Dippers can be made from fired pistol cases (.32 ACP and 9mm are good) or even .22 rimfire cases. Handle can be no more than tightly twisted wire. Eight grains of Blue Dot is my plinking load with the 3118 bullet. Same powder I use for .357 Magnum and several warm cast bullet loads in bigger cases like .30-40. No reason why 5 grains of Unique wouldn't work, though.

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svartkruttgris#369 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2980 Location: Colorado, Norway, Sweden Joined: Oct 28^th, 2014	Re: 32-20 loads Reply #13 - Oct 19^th, 2019 at 11:13am	Print Post
	With an old rifle condition of bore and chamber can be decisive in finding a good grouping load. All of my 32-20s over decades have had "sewerpipe" bores. All shot best with slower burning powders, including real BP and 777 -- always managed 1-2 inch 3 shot groups at 50-100M with slow "rifle" powders, such as 4227, 4759, 777BP sub. With pistol powders, such as Unique, Green Dot, 7625, groups were too large for hunting or metallic silhouette matches. My present 32-20 rifle likes 4759 or 4227, with best groups with 10-11gr 4227 and either Saeco 322 120gr 0,314" to 0,316" diameters or Hornady 100gr XTP. These loads have performed perfectly for small game, including turkeys and foxes. The sewer pipe bore of this rifle gives 100-250fps less than indicated by published load data. Presume cause is a "leaky" bore. NO 100gr lead bullets shoot decently in this rifle. SKG


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George Babits Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1151 Joined: Sep 27^th, 2012	Re: 32-20 loads Reply #14 - Oct 19^th, 2019 at 4:22pm	Print Post
	I called Unique a "funny" powder, because it is "flaky." Seriously, though, I just don't care to use it much. It is definately a "unique" powder from its inception. I am also very partial to full, or nearly full, cases when using any smokless powders. George


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