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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3003 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Long range with .32-40? Aug 26^th, 2019 at 12:10pm	Print Post
	Went to a long range gong shoot yesterday. Took my Uberti High Wall in .30/40, iron sights, got hits on the target, optically measured to be 1,093 yards across a pretty deep draw. Spotter can usually see dust from misses. Most of the watchers can hear hits on the gong. Discussion went to smaller bores. Could I hit the gong with a .22 LR? I'll try, but how would you know if you hit it? Now I'm thinking that a .32/40 might do it? What is a good load for fixed ammo, using something like the factory 165 grain LEAD bullets? I have 4227 powder, also 5744. Looking to duplicate BP ballistics, nothing jacketed or HV.


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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2368 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: Long range with .32-40? Reply #1 - Aug 26^th, 2019 at 1:04pm	Print Post
	Waterman, I don't have any data for the 32-40 at that distance but I did some plinking with the 22rf, low wall, RKS barrel, and Wolf Match extra at a 1000. Stole a couple of the kids walkie-talkies, keyed the mic on the one at the target (40" steel gong - hung it on the back side) success of hitting it was little better than my results with the big gun on the mile. My shooter app said about 305 minutes up from zero and to some surprise it was close. Wind and I'm thinking even the thermal's (shooting across a small draw) had tremendous effect. Good luck and keep us posted. Greg

	"To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk" T. A. Edison "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right" M.T.
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mori Participating Member Offline Posts: 33 Location: west coast Joined: Jun 21^st, 2011	Re: Long range with .32-40? Reply #2 - Aug 26^th, 2019 at 2:08pm	Print Post
	Waterman, Here is the recipe for hitting the 1,000+ yard gong: I1 45-90 Winchester or Sharps shooting a 540 Gr. lead bullet,72 gr. or more Swiss 1 1/2 powder, and a nice recoil pad to wear on your shoulder. 1.85 on a MVA sight= bong! Mori


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jy3855 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 368 Location: California Joined: Jul 13^th, 2015	Re: Long range with .32-40? Reply #3 - Aug 26^th, 2019 at 8:28pm	Print Post
	Waterman, The 32-40 can definitely get out there if you've got a high enough staff. My frustration in trying to get my 32-40 (a CPA) out to 990 yds was inability to spot the misses in the terrain and lighting where I was shooting. If you get good enough dust splashes that a spotter can help you adjust your sights to get onto the gong, the 32-40 will make it, as others have shown at our yearly gong-shooting get together in WA. As far as powder and loads, I'd use the data in Lyman's 4th Ed. Cast Bullet Handbook, and I'd try with 4198, 5744, or Reloader 7 for starters and find a load that my rifle liked.


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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: Long range with .32-40? Reply #4 - Aug 27^th, 2019 at 3:06am	Print Post
	Not sure about a gong, but my dad knew when a .22 LR hit the house about a foot above his head. It made an appropriate sound that caught his attention and made a hole in the siding. It came from 880 yards so should go on out to 1100.

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beltfed Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1826 Location: Central Wi Joined: Dec 20^th, 2007	Re: Long range with .32-40? Reply #5 - Aug 27^th, 2019 at 8:53am	Print Post
	I have shot a 2-500yards gong match with my 32-40 Rem Hep. Did OK. But as has been noted, those 200 gr bullets impact other than on the gong is hard to see as compared to larger cal BPCR rounds. Also, Waterman, I suggest you go to 200 gr bullets for better long range ballistics. beltfed/arnie


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4060may Full Member Offline Posts: 196 Location: Richfield Joined: Jul 12^th, 2006	Re: Long range with .32-40? Reply #6 - Aug 27^th, 2019 at 10:10am	Print Post
	I have shot Silhouette with my 32-40 No.1 Ruger, Scoped, 1-14 twist, Douglas Barrel Lyman 323471, Benchmark Powder, takes rams down well at 500M, didn't have enough elevation for 1000 yd Buffalo at Ridgway


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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2368 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: Long range with .32-40? Reply #7 - Aug 27^th, 2019 at 11:01am	Print Post
	Schuetzenmiester wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 3:06am: Not sure about a gong, but my dad knew when a .22 LR hit the house about a foot above his head. It made an appropriate sound that caught his attention and made a hole in the siding. It came from 880 yards so should go on out to 1100. I think there's a lot more to the story here...

	"To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk" T. A. Edison "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right" M.T.
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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: Long range with .32-40? Reply #8 - Aug 28^th, 2019 at 1:07am	Print Post
	GT wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 11:01am: Schuetzenmiester wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 3:06am: Not sure about a gong, but my dad knew when a .22 LR hit the house about a foot above his head. It made an appropriate sound that caught his attention and made a hole in the siding. It came from 880 yards so should go on out to 1100. I think there's a lot more to the story here... Yup, probably is. My cousin shot starlings around the feed lot. That was most likely one of his shots. They were 1/2 mile west across the fields. The box used to say dangerous to 1 1/4 miles, so they should easily reach 1100 yards.

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Amoretti Full Member Offline Posts: 222 Location: thermopolis, Wy Joined: Nov 2^nd, 2009	Re: Long range with .32-40? Reply #9 - Aug 28^th, 2019 at 9:35am	Print Post
	Just an idle thought. If it’s so difficult to see bullet impacts at long distances why not cover the ground around the target with some sort of powder? Bentonite, lime, flour etc.


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Green_Frog Frequent Elocutionist Online "It ain't easy being green" ASSRA Life #281 Posts: 4164 Location: Lynchburg, VA Joined: Apr 18^th, 2004	Re: Long range with .32-40? Reply #10 - Sep 14^th, 2019 at 10:28pm	Print Post
	The shortening of ranges from the days of Creedmoor, etc brought with it smaller, more easily managed rounds, the 38-55, the 32-40, then even smaller 28-30 and 25-20 SS were developed specifically for the 40 Rod game. Just like a 44-100 would be out of place in an indoor gallery match, the 32-40 is out of place on a 1000 yard range. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it! Froggie


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Long range with .32-40? Reply #11 - Sep 14^th, 2019 at 10:43pm	Print Post
	I would agree with the Froggie somethings just have to be keep within reason of what one is actually trying to accomplish. The wind and the mirage will typically become your worst enemy all though the 32-40 is still one of the more naturaly accurate by design still being shot.

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John Boy Ex Member	Re: Long range with .32-40? Reply #12 - Sep 14^th, 2019 at 11:06pm	Print Post
	Quote: My frustration in trying to get my 32-40 (a CPA) out to 990 yds was inability to spot the misses in the terrain and lighting where I was shooting. A trajectory table will reduce your misses at any distance! And to identify hits, even 22 LR at long distances ... Buy a MagnetoSpeed Target Hit Indicator T1000 (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) ... $145
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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2942 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: Long range with .32-40? Reply #13 - Sep 15^th, 2019 at 7:08am	Print Post
	4060may wrote on Aug 27^th, 2019 at 10:10am: I have shot Silhouette with my 32-40 No.1 Ruger, Scoped, 1-14 twist, Douglas Barrel Lyman 323471, Benchmark Powder, takes rams down well at 500M, That's interesting. My 32-40 wouldn't knock them over at our 200m all off-hand match. That higher trajectory and lower velocity at 500m must have been the difference.

	Glenn - Stevens 044 1/2, Bartlein SS 5R barrel in 22LR
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Deadeye Bly Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1146 Location: Stephens City Joined: Feb 25^th, 2011	Re: Long range with .32-40? Reply #14 - Sep 15^th, 2019 at 10:06am	Print Post
	I don't mean to hijack your thread but here is an interesting historical tidbit. In the 1894 Wimbledon Match Edgar Leopold shot what was referred to as a 25-40 Maynard cartridge. He finished dead last of all the competitors. The cartridge was the prototype for the 25-36 Marlin which was introduced in 1895. He was shooting a Maynard and that's why it was called a Maynard cartridge. It seems there is very little that is new in the shooting world.


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