I'm curious as to your choice of 1F black powder? I would be thinking 2F or even possibly 3F.

I didn't know that. Learn something new every day. I'm going from my muzzeloader memory bank. 3f for .45 and under, 2f for 50 and over, and 1f for cannons if my memory serves me right. My old brain memory sometimes fails me. I have a .28-30 that I haven't shot yet. Prety sure I have a pound of 1f that I thought I didn't have a use for.

The only modern case long enough to make .28-30 from was the European 6x70R.  Huntington's had some a few years ago. When  I bought the last that they had, I was told that there would be no more.  (I've already shared out all but a few of what I bought.)

Maybe by now Norma has made another run?  I haven't been keeping up. 

Pope had new factory-drawn brass to play with. Back in the day, somebody at UMC was a wizard at drawing long skinny cases for Stevens.  A decent quantity of original .28-30 brass turned up on Gunbroker a couple of years ago, (but I doubt it will again).  Went for swingeing prices. I've paid collector prices for individual rounds, just to verify Barnes' measurements.

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Cartridge Conversions says the only possible way to reform 28-30 Stevens is to re-body a 224 Weatherby case and the only other way is to use 7/16" brass rod and lathe turn them - chamfer -anneal and FL size them
OK: 
* Norma sells drawn 224 Weatherby brass at $2.15 per case ... On Sale Now
* Rocky Mountain Ctg Co sells lathe turned 28-30 brass at $3.25 per case.  I got mine in a little over 3 weeks
To me, Rocky Mountain Ctg Co brass is the only logical way to go
When mine came from Rocky Mountain, I annealed them - chamfered them and no FL sizing was necessary and paid $162.50 for 50 pieces

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RSW - you must have read my mind    After I charged 15 of the cases with 1F, thought should have I'd duplex-ed 10 cases with 3grs of 4895 and 27 grs of 1F. Would guess that Pope and the 'boy's used duplex-ed rounds with Semi Smokeless powder as a priming powder 
So I'll chrono the 1F's (believe ~ 1400 fps) & the 4198's (believe ~ 1510 fps) first
Then the next charge-because Alliant 300-MP works so well in 32-40 & 38-55 reloads ... want to calculate a charge with the 300-MP & CCI SR Magnum 450 primers - which I don't have any

Any suggestions for the 300-MP charge in the 28-30 brass would be greatly appreciated. I'm thinking (off hand) somewhere between 12 -14grs

Off and on I've been running Quickload scenarios for the .28-30.  Nothing looks very good to me.  Load densities are very low.   

QL does not have 300MP in its' database, so I have to rely on the Accurate burn rate chart to find an equivalent.   

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On that basis I ran scenarios for the 120 grain bullet seated in the case using W296 and H110.   At 14 grains the model says 15,000 psi and 1700 fps, from a 24" barrel.  Only on a hunch, I'm going to start with something faster.    But this is all speculation - my own .28-30 is waiting for me to fit the wood, so has not been to the range.  Just functionality-tested in the back yard using 8 grains of Blue Dot.

John Boy
"Would guess that Pope and the 'boy's used duplex-ed rounds with Semi Smokeless powder as a priming powder"
I think your statement reflects what makes sense to us modern shooters but in fact was not the case. Semi-smokeless powder was a mechanical mixture of black powder and nitrocellulose (made with wood fiber rather than cotton). During Schuetzen's Golden Age, semi-smokeless was used as the main charge with a priming charge being 3-5 grains (bulk) DuPont No.1 smokeless. While semi-smokeless was very popular among competitive shooters, others stuck with black powder (typically Laflin & Rand or Hazard Kentucky) Fg, again with DuPont No.1 smokeless as priming charge.