Finally got the no 1. 284 Winchester. Custom light octagon barrel, custom stock, leupold vx2 scope. From an estate of the sister of a Pensylvania gunsmith 
Having trouble with random flyers.  No ryeme or reason.  Shoots good and then through a shot or two way off, then back in the original group.  It came with low end Winchester ammo, haven’t reloaded for it yet.
Beautiful gun. Not sure what is happening.  At first I thought it was me, but really buckled down and it still occurred.
Any ideas?
Note the forend is not floating.

Thanks for the advice, this gun is beautiful and I want to work this thing out
Jerry

Some 50 yrs in production, & Ruger STILL hasn't bothered to work out a fix for this very common problem; guess they're thinking is "that's what gunsmiths are for." If all the theories & suggestions for correcting this problem that have been published over the last 50 yrs in gun mags were collected together, they'd make a thick book.

bohemianway wrote on Oct 8^th, 2018 at 9:44am:


Very good question, and the answer is....sometimes. The problem with all the various fixes is they work on some, and not on others.
The light barrels mentioned above are tough to find a fix for. But a heavy barrel is almost always a much better choice. Most who hunt don't want the weight of the heavy barrel, so there's not much that can be done if they prefer a light barrel. 
Without a total redesign of that hanger and spring system, I don't see how the problem of flyers can ever be fixed on light barrels.

Redsetter wrote on Oct 8^th, 2018 at 11:43am:


I've owned three #1's in .45-70, .458 Win Mag, and 7x57. The one in .45-70 was the Lyman Centennial, and the most accurate of the 3 guns. I attribute that to it's heavier barrel.

I never purchased a .22-250 specifically to hunt deer at first, but since it's legal here for deer I used mine very successfully. So much so that I later sold the lightweight Rem. 700 I started with, and replaced it with the heavier 700 VSF version.
I've lost track of how many mule deer the 700 VSF has taken over the years. I stopped using it when I began hunting with old single shots, but not because it wasn't adequate. Actually because it was too easy to take deer with it. I took deer out to 400 yds. with it and never had to shoot more than once. All but one were typical shoulder shots. The one was a neck shot simply because the buck was too close.
I prefer taking deer with iron sights and a single shot now, just because it requires more hunting and stalking, vs. just sniping deer at a long range as the .22-250 did for me.

I have to side with Elmer on this one. The 22-250 was not designed with hunting deer in mind, especially when much more reliable rounds are available. It may be, that in capable hands, the 22-250 is adequate for deer size game, but just a matter of time until it will fail. If you cleanly killed as many as you said out to 400 yards, you are one very lucky man Val, and I might suggest running to your local 7-11 and buying a lottery ticket. I personally feel that 6mm's are at best marginal. I guided deer and elk hunters on the Roan Plateau in Colorado for many years, and shuddered when a hunter showed up with a 243, as I knew there was a real possibility that I would end up tracking a clients wounded deer or elk, and then have to pack it out of a deep canyon for  him or her. That is what I was paid to do, but doesn't mean I had to enjoy it, either seeing the animal wounded or my having to pack it out in two or more trips. I am glad to see you have gone to larger calibers, and closer ranges Val.   

I second that rkba2nd. For heavy animals I'll take a 30-06 with a 220 grain Nosler Partition over any hyper velocity drillamatic known to man.

In the hands of a well established and skilled rifleman / hunter the 6MM with the right bullet choice is in no way the same as coming across a lucky lottery ticket. For such a person to cleanly and humanly kill game out to 400yds. is really not a difficult task nor is any luck involved. When still hunting out of state and in Colorado the ranch manager over seeing the land we hunted  on would actually make fun of some of the rifles he would see in the group. He grew up around a 243 and it's all he used for Deer, Elk, Antelope and Black bear. I had a close friend now gone a Veterinarian and avid hunter who grew up in Oregon who's first Deer rifle and one his dad bought for him was a 220 Swift. He killed allot of Deer with it growing up and said it was the best cleanly killing deer rifle he had ever owned and over the years he owned several. Having worked hunter sight in days for the club for several years and probably like some of those you guided the majority could not hit the broad side of a barn let alone kill game cleanly nor humanly at any range and the only time they typically took there rifles out to shoot was for the once a year local deer season. I am also quite suprised why there are those who still feel the Nosler Partition to be a good bullet choice I found it to be the worse. They do a fantasic job of going all the way through a deer and expelling all of their shock and energy into the ground not the animal and time for all of the tracking to now begin. A bullet that enters and never exists and exspells all of it's instantaneous shock and energy is what destroys the nervous system and provides a quick, clean and human kill and drops them in their place like a box of rocks.

JLouis

I care too Joe. But as you say, it's an old topic and the same solutions offered up. But since the solutions don't solve the problem, are they really solutions? Or hopeful fixes?
I tried DeHaas' setscrew setup to put pressure from the hanger to the barrel, and "tune" the gun. I didn't see any change afterwards, so pulled the screw and sold the gun.