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Here is one that followed me home from a auction, the guy call it a 6x39R?? the bore end is .325 dia. does any one know what the marking on the barrel mean?? Thank Bonner
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Nice rifle!
I need one,
Aaron
WARNING: This post may contain material offensive to those who lack wit, humor, common sense and supporting factual or anecdotal evidence. Let's Go Sonny!
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No, but I'd bet it's not a 6mm anything. Most are in either 9.3mm or 9.5mm, and the lengths can vary. You'll need to chamber cast it to ensure what caliber and groove diameter it really is. It might be the unusual 8.6mm, or that might mean it's an 8.6mm groove diameter.
Mine is a 9.5x51R and I use .38-55 brass shortened and a .375" bullet. Yours could be a 57, 62, or even longer case.
These are very neat guns, and fairly rare in the USA. There's 3 or 4 of us here at ASSRA who have them, and have been working up loads for them. Most were the 9.3 version if I recall.
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Here's some previous discussion:
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With that groove diameter it sounds like one of the 8s that the 33 was chambered for - 8X42R, 8X57R/360. A chamber cast would be the first thing to do. Found this on the 8x42R:
"I think you first need to make a chamber cast... as I see different dimensions for the 8X42R case...
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Base; 0.488" to 0.467"
Rim dia; 0.5701" to 0.524"
Rim thickness; 0.055" to 0.049"
So, my choice would be to start with easy to get, inexpensive 7.62X54R cases as per CIP specs;
Base; 0.487" max / 0.483"
Rim dia; 0.570" max
Rim thickness; 0.063" max / 0.053" min
If you already have the dies, it would be pretty easy to try it.... the other case I'd try would be the .303 Brit.."
Of course if it is the 8x57R(360) the base case would be a 9.3x72R.
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With that groove diameter it sounds like one of the 8s that the 33 was chambered for - 8X42R, 8X57R/360. A chamber cast would be the first thing to do. Found this on the 8x42R:
"I think you first need to make a chamber cast... as I see different dimensions for the 8X42R case...
Ex;
Base; 0.488" to 0.467"
Rim dia; 0.5701" to 0.524"
Rim thickness; 0.055" to 0.049"
So, my choice would be to start with easy to get, inexpensive 7.62X54R cases as per CIP specs;
Base; 0.487" max / 0.483"
Rim dia; 0.570" max
Rim thickness; 0.063" max / 0.053" min
If you already have the dies, it would be pretty easy to try it.... the other case I'd try would be the .303 Brit.."
Of course if it is the 8x57R(360) the base case would be a 9.3x72R.
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Here's a Nowegian link with a pic of the 8x42R brass:
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Here's a Nowegian link with a pic of the 8x42R brass:
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That is an interesting article. A bit humorous with a running discourse of Monopoly woven in with case measurements.
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I wonder if that ".325" bore measurement was slugging the bore, or just dial calipers in the end of the barrel?
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es, Just dial calipers in the end of the bore. A fix round of 38-55 will chamber with no problem, I have not made a chamber cast but i will put the information here. A couple more shot's of the marking. Thanks for any help, Bonner
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A half stock version too! Most I've seen were full stocked forearms. Pretty neat rifle!
Guessing the bore will be a fair bit larger groove than the .325" given by dial calipers.
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One of mine is 9.3X57R, same as English 360, 2 1/4. I got it at an auction. It was listed as 9.3X57 cal in the guide. No R. Big difference.
I knew what I was looking at but there were others that didn't. One must be careful.
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Re: model 33 Husqvarna
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Bet I know where you got it! Have you been attending the Montrose auctions lately? Recently they have had lots of rollers. I picked up a nice model 53 win couple weeks ago and they also had another Husky.
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Have you been attending the Montrose auctions lately
I've had that one for tens years at least.
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I wish one would follow me home, must be nice. I always end up having to buy mine. Darn.
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I wish one would follow me home, must be nice. I always end up having to buy mine. Darn.
I loaned a friend some money years ago, and he "stuck me" with the Type 33 Rolling Block as collateral. I knew nothing about them then, and was more into Remington Sporters, so didn't want to keep it. About every 6 months I'd ask if he wanted his Roller back, and he'd tell me he didn't have the money yet. After abut 3-4 times asking he asked if I'd mind keeping it for what he owed. I wasn't excited, but he was a friend, so I said OK.
Once it was mine I began investigating the gun, and found it to be a very neat gun, and a caliber I liked. I made up ammo for it, and began to shoot it. I fell head over heels for it then, and it's one of only a couple non US made single shots I own. I always stayed clear of foreign made singles too, just to keep life simple.
But it would take a lot for me to part with the 33 now! Maybe another Ballard, or a nice Rolling Block Sporter.
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Re: model 33 Husqvarna
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jhm, Yes it came from Montrose, I was very happy to see it for sale. I had never seen one, but I have read about them here on the board. It seam to me, more roller are showing up for sale, which is great to see because not to meany are in our neck of the woods. Bonner
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Marlinguy, I was going to take a camber cast and report here what I found?? Well I thought the best thing for me to do was, send the rifle out to Taylor Machine. He should have it in a day or so and let me know what it is and the best way to go with this rifle. I have to many wild cat now, Maybe it will git relined to a new round that I can shoot off hand. Bonner
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Was the bore not good in your Type 33? I'd certainly try to get it shooting as is, if the bore is good. The various calibers are all pretty easy to form from readily available brass. Bullets might require a custom mold to cast if they're an oddball diameter, but a custom size mold from somewhere like Accurate isn't badly priced. If the groove diameter is close, a slightly larger bullet can be sized down easily. I size mine down from a .38-55 mold I have to make them .376" for my bore.
John Taylor will definitely be able to give you good input on your gun, but it's value will be much higher if it retains the original bore and chamber.
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