Pretty neat! Hope you have more pictures of the whole gun?

Redsetter I am with you where is the proof.

Here's what was posted in 2007 regarding this rifle:

"I bought this rifle back in 1986 at a Rochester NY show..
Cannot remember the fellow, but he had some other fine SS rifles !!

Does anyone know of any articles or info on this rifle ?

I'll describe it in more detail:
Appears to be an early 6 1/2 with double-set triggers and Pacific lever.
Action is case-colored in the Stevens rippled style.
Octagon Schoyen barrel in .25-21.
Winchester A5 scope.
With it came some brass, reloading data in Neds fine penmanship writing.
Neds tool shop made case resizer & re-decapper and a brass insert
bullet mold.

I think I paid a Queens ransom for it, but what the heck - you only live
once.

thanks ,"

I am always hoping that people receive provenance when they make a purchase, but unsure if this gun was documented since the 2007 request or not? But certain things are for sure, which I see no reason to dispute. It is a Ballard, and it is a Schoyen barrel in .25-21 Stevens. It is not a #6 1/2, as that was the Rigby model with full engraving, facetted receiver, and pistol grip receiver. It isn't a #6 action either, as that was also a pistol grip frame. 
It appears to be built on a Pacific receiver with the straight grip frame, and that style of lever. Hope there is provenance to tie it to Ned Roberts.

Bill Lawrence wrote on Aug 29^th, 2018 at 5:17pm:


Can't say as I've seen this caliber in a Schoyen, but I'd give the OP the benefit of the doubt as to it being a Schoyen. Every Schoyen barrel I've ever seen was well marked, and I'd assume this one is too, thus explaining the OP's claim of it being a Schoyen.
But there are numerous levels of "Schoyen rifles". Some are simply Schoyen barrels installed on shooter's guns, while others had Simmons stocks fitted at Schoyen's shop. Still others got the full treatment of a Schoyen barrel, stocks, and all the tools a person could purchase from Schoyen.
This one appears to just have the Schoyen barrel fitted to it. Doesn't make it wrong, or bad, just what most would consider entry level compared to the full blown Schoyens built in his shop.

Nothing wrong with skepticism, but shouldn't we give the OP the benefit of the doubt for now, rather than being too skeptical until he has a chance to prove it?
I agree with Redsetter, that we should try to find evidence before we jump to the conclusion it's not correct.

Myself I am with Vall give the gentleman some room to speak he was nice enough to go out of his way to share it and it's not like it is for sale. One beautiful Rifle no matter what the background might be.

JLouis

marlinguy wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 9:08pm:


Asking how he knows, or even suspects, it is what its alleged to be is "ungentlemanly"?  That's the lowest bar for ungentlemanly conduct I ever heard of...considering, especially, what's said on this forum.

I'd say it's rather "ungentlemanly" to clam up when politely asked for further information.