Humm did you say writer or rider if the later I think it was Charlie Sheen who could have made it to finals and taken the all around.

JLouis

Paul you may indeed be correct and I am a bit surprised that no one else is apparently aware of it having taken place? 

JLouis

Redsetter wrote on Aug 17^th, 2018 at 7:32pm:


The Stevens fire is real and has been well documented in books about Stevens whenever the subject of Stevens records for serial numbers is discussed. It's also been documented in the government investigation for war profiting after WWI, so not just a myth.
Besides the timely circumstance of the fire, Stevens also cleverly made all their upper management "unavailable" to testify at the Congressional hearings that were held. They sent all their upper management to the West Coast for almost two years until the investigation was wrapped up.
This might seem like an insignificant attempt to withhold testimony today, since we have so much accessibility today to electronic devices to record interviews. But in the 1920's this actually worked and no Stevens upper management ever testified.
Jay Kimmel goes into great detail in his history of Savage-Stevens Firearms. I've read it elsewhere, but can't cite you the other source without looking through my firearms library.

I never take any source for load data as a primary source! I try to double and triple check load data before using it.
Now data gathered from friends I know well, and have used it for years will be more likely to be used without multiple checks. I trust my good friends a lot more than printed data.

"When the legend becomes fact, we print the legend."  Substitute whatever word you want for "legend" and you have via a John Ford script line the essence of what's being discussed here.

Bill Lawrence

I've seen a lot of load data in the old Ideal/Lyman manuals that looks like it came right out of Phil Sharpe's reloading data.

Bill Lawrence wrote on Aug 17^th, 2018 at 10:06pm:


That, I confess, I don't quite follow.  Nothing pertaining to Ned's military career, or lack thereof, is well enough known to constitute any sort of "legend."  Even on this highly specialized forum, few know more than the skimpiest details of his life & career.