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texasmac Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2153 Location: Central Texas Joined: Aug 16^th, 2004	Federal's new primer technology Jul 2^nd, 2018 at 11:01pm	Print Post
	I know you guys understand how primers work, so you can quickly read through the standard stuff & check out the comments about Federals new Catalyst primer technology the company in converting over to. I use Federal large pistol primers for BPCR so it caught my interest. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Wayne

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CW Oldtimer Offline Posts: 531 Joined: Feb 20^th, 2018	Re: Federal's new primer technology Reply #1 - Jul 2^nd, 2018 at 11:37pm	Print Post
	Does less pressure = soft which is good for BP?


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Old-Win Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1825 Location: Minnesota Joined: Nov 24^th, 2005	Re: Federal's new primer technology Reply #2 - Jul 3^rd, 2018 at 2:29pm	Print Post
	I don't know! Does less pressure mean lower brisance? The article talks about temperatures being higher, pressures being lower. Generally the higher the temperature the higher the pressure so it's kind of a conflicting report. We will just have to see if it becomes available to the hand loader. Me thinks it's all about getting away from the lead. Will it become the norm for indoor shooting ranges?


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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: Federal's new primer technology Reply #3 - Jul 3^rd, 2018 at 3:35pm	Print Post
	Lower pressure might mean more accuracy due to less bullet disturbance before ignition of the power.

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rgchristensen Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1188 Joined: Jan 2^nd, 2014	Re: Federal's new primer technology Reply #4 - Jul 3^rd, 2018 at 6:34pm	Print Post
	Old-Win wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2018 at 2:29pm: Me thinks it's all about getting away from the lead. Will it become the norm for indoor shooting ranges? Yep. Most likely trying to make virtues out of necessities. CHRIS RGChristensen


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CW Oldtimer Offline Posts: 531 Joined: Feb 20^th, 2018	Re: Federal's new primer technology Reply #5 - Jul 3^rd, 2018 at 7:58pm	Print Post
	Chris, nice turn of a phrase. I agree. But, we can hope for a silver lining.


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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3963 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Federal's new primer technology Reply #6 - Jul 3^rd, 2018 at 8:42pm	Print Post
	I gathered that they were concocting these to be in harmony with the new powders. Maybe some of those powders are not suitable for our use, nor the primers that will attend. Whatever, we can bet that things will be different. Sure hope Federal continues to market primers that are very, very similar to the ones we all like so much. Not looking forward to this with hope.


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Federal's new primer technology Reply #7 - Jul 3^rd, 2018 at 9:40pm	Print Post
	One would think they did more than enough R&D and it's now up to us to spend the time to see how they might actually work out either for the better or possibly the worse when all is said and done on our end. JLouis

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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Federal's new primer technology Reply #8 - Jul 4^th, 2018 at 12:34am	Print Post
	You saying you're gonna have them put you to sleep first, Joe?

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John Boy Ex Member	Re: Federal's new primer technology Reply #9 - Jul 4^th, 2018 at 11:38am	Print Post
	Wayne, First of all - great article and thanks for the post. Will this new Federal primer using aluminum & the new compounds aid with a lower brisance shooting BPCR reloads? Good question because many of the current primers use ground aluminum & glass to aid ignition explosions primarily in ball powder. And these primers have a negative impact lowering brisance with BP reloads. When the new primers come to market, will be interesting to test them over the chronograph compared to what we have to use now.


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Red Cent Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 316 Location: Benton, KY byway of WV, VA, NC Joined: Dec 25^th, 2016	Re: Federal's new primer technology Reply #10 - Jul 4^th, 2018 at 6:36pm	Print Post
	"While some shooters like to use compressed powder charges in their reloads—the idea being that with no air space for the powder to slop around in, they will get more consistent results—this can make the primer’s job more difficult, since the pressure wave coming off the primer can compact the powder column even more, making it hard for the slag and flame to penetrate."

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ireload2 Full Member Offline Posts: 169 Joined: Jul 9^th, 2009	Re: Federal's new primer technology Reply #11 - Jul 10^th, 2018 at 11:54pm	Print Post
	Federal apparently earmarks all of their primer production for ammo and handloaders get a tiny bit of excess production. Federal primers were alost non existent during Clinton's time in office. Then the same thing happened during the 8 years of Obama and now nearly 2 years of Trump. I have had it with Federal primers. In the future I will be using another brand that is actually available. I do not shoot factory ammo. Federal's technology may be great but if it is not really available then it is not going to be on my shopping list.


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