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Reply #90 - May 29th, 2018 at 3:55pm
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We are not in Portville any more Dale   Wink
  
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Reply #91 - May 29th, 2018 at 5:41pm
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P1 wrote on May 29th, 2018 at 3:55pm:
We are not in Portville any more Dale   Wink

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Reply #92 - May 29th, 2018 at 5:52pm
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Did some of you ever leave it behind? 

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Reply #93 - May 29th, 2018 at 6:28pm
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Yes I have pin gages and collets. My tube mic shows brass to be close to round but having thick places that I would like to skim off. Taking off a full .001 or more will have my brass on the thin side of where I want to be.
  
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Reply #94 - May 29th, 2018 at 6:33pm
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JLouis wrote on May 29th, 2018 at 3:15pm:
21/2 tenths per side being consistently being taken off is asking alot out of any setup and I am not really sure if it is even doable. 

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Did you mean 2 1/2 thousandths instead of tenths?
  

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Reply #95 - May 29th, 2018 at 6:45pm
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I need to skim off about .0005 of any high spots for even neck tension.

.0005 looks like 5 ten-thousandths to me.     Wink
  

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Reply #96 - May 29th, 2018 at 6:53pm
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BP wrote on May 29th, 2018 at 6:45pm:
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I need to skim off about .0005 of any high spots for even neck tension.

.0005 looks like 5 ten-thousandths to me.     Wink

Is that half a thou?  Roll Eyes
  

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Reply #97 - May 29th, 2018 at 7:56pm
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Kkid, is this for fixed or breech seated shooting?
While we have some disagreement on whether or not it's all that important to breech seating, I don't think that a half thou would be much to sweat out. Is the damn gun even within a half thou?
Not against you doing it, just wondering why you feel that small amount is worth eliminating. Carry on.
  
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Reply #98 - May 29th, 2018 at 7:58pm
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When I hit the send for that last one I had a thought. Still hurts, but...... What is the weight range for those cases you want to just skim off?
  
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Reply #99 - May 29th, 2018 at 8:15pm
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kkid66 wrote on May 29th, 2018 at 6:28pm:
Yes I have pin gages and collets. My tube mic shows brass to be close to round but having thick places that I would like to skim off. Taking off a full .001 or more will have my brass on the thin side of where I want to be.


OK, here is what to do:

1. Chuck the body and turn the rim, to true it up.

2. Size the neck, using a mandrel on the inside of the neck.

3. Find a pin gauge that is a light push fit in the neck. It must be a push fit. If your pins are to big or small for that, make a mandrel  that fits a pin.

3. Chuck the pin in a good drill chuck or collect, in your tail stock. Of course, check the pin for straightness and the tail stock, to be on center.

4. Chuck the rim in the collect.

5. Oil the pin the pin or use a good sizing wax, like Imperial or Hornaday.

6. Don't run it at more than 500 rpm, slower if it gets warm.

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Reply #100 - May 30th, 2018 at 5:55am
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Is anyone using a Juenke machine?  That would tell a lot with these bullets.
  
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Reply #101 - May 30th, 2018 at 9:17am
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Frank, Thank you. I may have run my lathe too fast last time.
Flyer, This is starline brass fixed ammo for Creedmoor 1000yd in 45-70. Brass is weighed and base matched by shell holder and feeler gauge for base thickness. My neck tension runs just under .001.
  
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Reply #102 - May 30th, 2018 at 11:10am
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If you are going to go for Frank's method and depending on how much it takes to true up the rims you maybe running the risk of having your cases going past your extractor so just keep a close eye on it.

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Reply #103 - May 30th, 2018 at 11:58am
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J Luis, If I were going to try a neck turned case in your application, I would start with 30-30 cases and neck down.

The reason is necking up stretches the brass where necking down will condense it. With a thicker neck, it could be turned to better fit your chamber, possibly giving you a a more precise fit. That will depend on thickness.

One thing is for sure, turning what you have will increase that clearance.

I may have some 30-30 around here, if I do, I will neck them down and see how thick they are.

What is your bullet diameter? or neck diameter &  thickness
  
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Reply #104 - May 30th, 2018 at 12:39pm
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Thanks, Kkid, that makes the thou (a little) more understandable. Fixed might, just might benefit from it at a thousand yards. Wink
For the breech seated clan at far less distance, I have my doubts.

Portville? what's with that. Some in-joke maybe?
  
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