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Reply #15 - May 21st, 2018 at 5:33pm
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The mold is not new but nearly so. It is in very good shape and I doubt there were many bullet cast from it.  It was Don Fabrizio's and how he ordered it or when, I don't know.  You may remember Don....

If you look at the picture, the sprue plate screw has been ground. It looks like Don hit it with a grinder for ladle clearance.  

RSW -  I am aware of the old Ideal cherries BUT if you look, and I don't have a 323 60 in hand to know for sure, the old Ideal mold is depicted with square GG and the Lyman GG's are round.  This lead me to think it may just be a copy.

Because it is not a tapered design, I have yet to cast with it so I do not know the weight for sure.  This week I am over the top busy, so it will be next week at the earliest that I can cast with it.  Maybe before that if I remember to make a few with a run of match bullets for this weekend. 

Frank - you are right! It does look like the two GG's are larger!  I will check that. The mold block halves have the same block number. 

I don't think it is a home cut cavity.
Yes. It is interesting to see the two different size numbers, the large 3 on the blocks. I can only guess on that.
I will measure instead of guess the diameters when I have some cast. However, it appears to be straight sided all the way to the nose. 

Blindeye - I am not sure of the weight but given the length, 1.150" I would guess the bullet would go 200grs plus some.

Thanks so much for all the input!
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Reply #16 - May 21st, 2018 at 5:39pm
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Called flyer   -     your description of casting with a screw under the mold made me laugh. I could see me doing that too!
  
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Reply #17 - May 21st, 2018 at 5:47pm
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Your pictures are fine. It looks (to me) like the what we were talking about where a lighter bullet was made with the cherry indexed to cut a lighter mold.  Yes?

Is the Ideal loading tool cut for the same bullet?  Neat tools! Good target too.  So, you have a 32 Ideal chambered Winchester SS?
  
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Reply #18 - May 21st, 2018 at 6:53pm
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CW, I, of course, wish I'd got that mold now.  At the time I was only aware of the value of the guns themselves. "Stuff" like molds was everywhere, like old car parts were back then too. Times, and attitudes change, hey?
But, rest assured that the thing was a pain for me to cast with, and I'm not certain advancing skill would have made it any fun to use. Like I said, there's probably a good reason they are so scarce today.
  
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Reply #19 - May 21st, 2018 at 6:57pm
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One of those here seems to always have a problem with what he might only pretend to know. You have one very fine bullet mould in your hands, one to be very proud to own and more importantly to enjoy using and a real nice find indeed. 

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Reply #20 - May 26th, 2018 at 10:52am
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Looks like I have the Ideal 32-150/IDL mold marked on the sprue cutter only.  Now to find the proper rifle.

James
  
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Re: 32 Ideal mold?
Reply #21 - May 27th, 2018 at 9:03pm
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In 1967, Lyman was still making moulds for those long bullets.  I had just bought a 28-30 and needed a mould.  A local sporting goods store offered a week turn around on special orders from Lyman, so I ordered 285221, not knowing that I had to specify a weight.  The mould I received was the longest and cast about 170 grains with the alloy I had in the pot.  One trial was all it took to convince me to specify 120 grains for the next order.  

I think at that time, Lyman would make a mould for any cherries they had on hand, including some of the old Ideal designs.
  
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Reply #22 - May 27th, 2018 at 9:21pm
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I've periodically wondered how far back it was that you could get molds made from the "leavings" of the earlier molds- made from cherries, not shelved like now. By the time I got into bullet casting, and purchasing my own molds, the practice had ceased.
I had an old guy that helped me get started at this, and I used his collection of old molds for quite a while. When I went to buying my own, some of the ones I liked from his collection were gone from catalogs. The search for some only took an upswing with the advent of ebay. Till I first bought there, I only had two molds for one of my rifles and one each for two others. Now, I have more than I need, but less than some of y'all.  Wink
  
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