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KFW Oldtimer Offline Posts: 575 Location: Powell Wy. Joined: Dec 18^th, 2016	1885 Winchester function Mar 13^th, 2018 at 2:19pm	Print Post
	forgive if this has been discussed before. i just bought the 32-40 highwall (mfg. 1893) with single set trigger. my question is: when cycling the lever is the hammer supposed to return to 1/2 cock on closing? mine leaves the hammer at full cock. after chambering a round, that's seems precarious? please advise regards kw


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Old-Win Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1725 Location: Minnesota Joined: Nov 24^th, 2005	Re: 1885 Winchester function Reply #1 - Mar 13^th, 2018 at 2:25pm	Print Post
	No, it's doing what it's supposed to. Some twenty two's were set up so that they will go to half cock. They were manufactured during the Winder era.


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MartiniBelgian Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1705 Location: Aarschot Joined: Jun 7^th, 2004	Re: 1885 Winchester function Reply #2 - Mar 13^th, 2018 at 2:26pm	Print Post
	Why? You loaded a round, so it is your intention to shoot, no? Lots of rifles function like that. Or is it just the sight of the cocked hammer that makes you uneasy? Same happens with a lever action, bolt action or semi-auto rifle.


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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3671 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: 1885 Winchester function Reply #3 - Mar 13^th, 2018 at 2:28pm	Print Post
	That's the way they made them. If you think about it, most rifles do finish closing at full cock, not just these. Mauser, Win lever actions, Springfield, etc. all close and remain at full cock. There are, though, some of the Winchester single shots that do go to half cock, and I think that they are the problem children. Just an opinion. Hope you and that nice new rifle soon get to be familiar and that you will let us know how it's doing fer ya. wow, while I was typing that the thing was already done fer twice. Quick work fellas.


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: 1885 Winchester function Reply #4 - Mar 13^th, 2018 at 2:59pm	Print Post
	I was taught that if you turn the fly around it will go to half cock and if you turn it back around it will go back to full cock and thus one's choice. Hopefully OleTuck will chine in and clarify I know of no one more knowledgeable than he when it comes to HiWall walls. JLouis
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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2371 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: 1885 Winchester function Reply #5 - Mar 13^th, 2018 at 3:01pm	Print Post
	All but one of my original 1885's go to full cock. I had a neat little .38-55 ( rebored to .45-70 unfortunately ) with close coupled double sets that was built in the later years of the 1885's production and it went to half cock upon closing the action. Chris.


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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: 1885 Winchester function Reply #6 - Mar 13^th, 2018 at 3:58pm	Print Post
	Take a look at page 87 of Campbell's Singleshot Volume II book for a drawing of Winchester's Model 87 Single Shot Hammer Fly that leaves the hammer at half-cock on closing.

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KFW Oldtimer Offline Posts: 575 Location: Powell Wy. Joined: Dec 18^th, 2016	Re: 1885 Winchester function Reply #7 - Mar 13^th, 2018 at 4:57pm	Print Post
	guys.....thanks for the follow ups. yes i am new to the highwall family. mainly have ballards, r/blks(single set), sharps etc. with set triggers. for safety sake at what point in cycling does one set the trigger, 1/2 cock, full cock or when the lever is down....when you can easily get your finger behind it?


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KFW Oldtimer Offline Posts: 575 Location: Powell Wy. Joined: Dec 18^th, 2016	Re: 1885 Winchester function Reply #8 - Mar 13^th, 2018 at 5:00pm	Print Post
	J Louis flipping the fly around? that's something i will try.....novel idea if it works. maybe it has been installed backwards? kw


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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3058 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: 1885 Winchester function Reply #9 - Mar 13^th, 2018 at 5:01pm	Print Post
	I have an 1887 mfg HW that has double flys so it fully drops the hammer as you lower the lever. It has had thousands of rounds through it with nary a mishap. Can be disconcerting if you are not expecting it. Jack

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Old-Win Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1725 Location: Minnesota Joined: Nov 24^th, 2005	Re: 1885 Winchester function Reply #10 - Mar 13^th, 2018 at 5:06pm	Print Post
	Don't set the trigger until you have the rifle loaded, the lever fully up with the hammer cocked and you're ready to fire the shot. If you have the rifle ready to fire but can't break the shot, thumb the hammer down gently like you would your Sharps. You can try the set trigger with the hammer fully down (not on half cock). The half cock fly is a whole different animal.


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KFW Oldtimer Offline Posts: 575 Location: Powell Wy. Joined: Dec 18^th, 2016	Re: 1885 Winchester function Reply #11 - Mar 13^th, 2018 at 5:10pm	Print Post
	Old Win got it! thanks...........now to find some brass. snow is still 2 feet over the back stop. kw


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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3671 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: 1885 Winchester function Reply #12 - Mar 13^th, 2018 at 5:10pm	Print Post
	As to setting the trigger- I've always done it only when I'm ready to fire (or, nearly so)- safe pointing and no likelyhood of forgetting it's set. Likewise, I never lower the block when it's set. If I need to retreat from shooting, I very, very carefully ease it to half cock and then open the action. They're pretty conventional rifles in operation, just be aware of yourself like with any firearm. Again, let us hear how it's going, and congratulation on finally getting the Cadillac of single shot rifles.


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GT Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2113 Location: Northeast Wyoming Joined: Jun 28^th, 2015	Re: 1885 Winchester function Reply #13 - Mar 14^th, 2018 at 11:25am	Print Post
	KW, Congrats on the purchase, as stated earlier they are a Cadillac of the single shots, I may disagree a little and say they lean towards the Rolls Royce of single shots... This should open a can of worms... Greg

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KFW Oldtimer Offline Posts: 575 Location: Powell Wy. Joined: Dec 18^th, 2016	Re: 1885 Winchester function Reply #14 - Mar 14^th, 2018 at 2:01pm	Print Post
	GT i see you guys do love your highwalls! the browning design is a mechanical marvel.......i don't know just yet if my ballards need to move over to 2nd place. i need to shoot the 'ol 1885 first i guess to feel the love! thanks for the follow ups though, all have been helpful. kw


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