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Reply #180 - Dec 15th, 2021 at 1:39pm
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Probably ten or fifteen years ago I chased this rabbit. I switched a Stevens Favorite to CF and formed cases from Hornet brass. I'm over the passion for it and am going to sell a few items. I'll list them on the for sale section. I have a custom (properly hardened) sizing die for for 25RF and just over 100 60gr plain based bullets. The die sizes to .276 as if I remember correctly.
  
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Reply #181 - Dec 15th, 2021 at 9:56pm
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The Hornet brass that I use (PPU) is heavy enough that it is practical to machine the case necks to leave a shoulder on the inside of the case.  Then the round is simple to load, just re- and de-, charge the powder, and stick in a bullet.   The internal shoulder locates the bullet properly. Ammo loaded this way has shot a 1.5" group at 200 yd.   I am shooting a .262" diameter 75 gr bullet.

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Reply #182 - Dec 16th, 2021 at 6:10am
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stevens52 wrote on Dec 15th, 2021 at 1:39pm:
Probably ten or fifteen years ago I chased this rabbit. I switched a Stevens Favorite to CF and formed cases from Hornet brass.

HA! And here I thought this was all new technology!
  

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Reply #183 - Dec 18th, 2021 at 10:26am
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What exactly is the machining process to convert from RF to CF?  I'm assuming the Breech Block has to be drilled/filled and re-drilled for a different position on the firing pin.
  
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Reply #184 - Dec 18th, 2021 at 11:09am
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Rgchristensen this case was made from RMC basic brass. With the shoulder being bored for the correct bullet seating depth and bullet fit. Intent to Re&De, drop powder charge and insert bullet into case for breech seating benchrest and it is a 32 caliber.
I believe the concept is very similar to your own. 

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Reply #185 - Dec 18th, 2021 at 11:25am
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@Cap45:  If you're converting a Favorite, it's best to start with a .22 breechblock.  I simply bored the firing pin channel to a better angle using a 1/4" end mill, and made the firing pin 1/4 diameter instead of the original, (which I remember as .180").  That cleaned up the old channel nicely.  Even so, the tip is offset from the pin centerline.   

My conversion is of a 1915 Favorite, whose breechblock is wider than the 1894 model.  I wouldn't do that to a "94" Favorite.  Filling the old channel with a brazed-in slug is a much better approach for those.   

Either way, setting the breechblock in the mill at the correct angle is tricky.  I used a method that is too complicated for a forum post, but it avoided making a fixture.  If ever I were to do another conversion, I would send my breechblock to John Taylor, who is much better tooled-up to do the job than I am.   















  

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Reply #186 - Dec 18th, 2021 at 11:32am
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@JLouis:   That approach pretty much eliminates the need for a seating die, doesn't it?   

Seating the bullet is one of the hurdles in this scheme, since there are no commercial dies that can be adapted.   I simply made one.  Which I then gave away, so now I have to make another.
  

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Reply #187 - Dec 18th, 2021 at 11:46am
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Uscra112 the intent was to make a 100 identical cases. All or just the amount needed primed, charged, lubed bullets in place and ready to take to a match. Advantage would be to rapidly shoot a good condition before it goes away and or as soon as it comes back. No powder measure, re&de capper or breech seater needed on the bench.
  

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Reply #188 - Dec 18th, 2021 at 11:51am
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Capt45 you might be able to bush it. I am not real familiar with the breech block.

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Reply #189 - Dec 18th, 2021 at 12:44pm
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Thanks all; I really like the suggestion of sending the block to John Taylor.  Although, I do have the tooling to drill; tap, and plug the block myself.  Gotta think that one over.
  
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Reply #190 - Dec 18th, 2021 at 2:12pm
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Still can't figure out what retracts the hammer with the Niedner firing pin.
Looks like one would have to bring the hammer to half-cock before lowering the block (ala Sharps) or break the firing pin.
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Reply #191 - Dec 18th, 2021 at 2:37pm
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A coiled return spring and not shown.
  

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Reply #192 - Dec 18th, 2021 at 11:07pm
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A firing pin spring would not overcome the hammer resting on the firing pin.
Maybe it is an inertia firing pin.
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Reply #193 - Dec 8th, 2022 at 6:35am
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It's been about a year since the last post on this discussion. It contains so much great information, lets keep it alive. 

I went to the range a couple weeks ago with my .25 Stevens #2 rolling block. I was shooting both the rimfire and centerfire versions. I had a couple misfires with my new, home made rimfire cases. They needed a little fine tuning. I went back to the range yesterday with 34 reloadable rimfire cases. They all worked great  Smiley  Now I need to find some more .22 Hornet brass.

Here is the video from a couple weeks ago.
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Reply #194 - Dec 8th, 2022 at 10:20am
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uscra112 wrote on Dec 18th, 2021 at 11:32am:
@JLouis:   That approach pretty much eliminates the need for a seating die, doesn't it?  

Seating the bullet is one of the hurdles in this scheme, since there are no commercial dies that can be adapted.   I simply made one.  Which I then gave away, so now I have to make another.


I made mine based on your drawing. It works great  Smiley
  
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