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Feb 19th, 2018 at 10:06am
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     Hi All:

     I have an 1885 HW that is in good shape and found the Unertl scope in my junk drawer.  Is there a way that I could mount the scope without drilling and tapping the rifle?

                                            Tia,

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Reply #1 - Feb 19th, 2018 at 10:45am
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JB weld?  epoxy?  the blocks on the barrel.   I'd try it on a old barrel first.
  
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Reply #2 - Feb 19th, 2018 at 10:58am
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hose clamps?
  

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Reply #3 - Feb 19th, 2018 at 11:47am
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JB weld?  epoxy?  the blocks on the barrel.   I'd try it on a old barrel first.


This will work, but the heavier the scope, the greater is the possibility that the epoxy might suddenly let go--which happened to me, and it was mighty distressing.  If the scope is only attached when shooting at a range, this danger is minimized.

But I had no trouble removing the epoxy residue without harming the blue by using heat & lacquer thinner.
  
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Reply #4 - Feb 19th, 2018 at 1:06pm
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AC Gould here had a process using Black Max on his originals that would not leave any known evidence of it's use on the barrel finish when removed so you might want to PM him to talk about in more depth with him.

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Reply #5 - Feb 19th, 2018 at 2:27pm
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Steve Earle makes a bar that is 8" or so long with holes for the bases drilled and tapped in the bar on a spacing of 7.2".  I got a few.  I just use Acraglas colored black to attach the bar to the barrel and away I go.  I've never had one let go.  But I never have my scope on the rifle until in is in the rest.

When and if you want the bar off, give it a whack with a mallet and it is off.  Removing any glass still stuck to the barrel is an easy process.  Can't make myself drill and tap an original barrel.
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Reply #6 - Feb 19th, 2018 at 3:31pm
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pmcfall wrote on Feb 19th, 2018 at 2:27pm:
Steve Earle makes a bar that is 8" or so long with holes for the bases drilled and tapped in the bar on a spacing of 7.2".


Much better idea than gluing blocks directly, as I did, because of the far greater surface area of the bar.

I once tried a similar improvisation, using no epoxy, but a bar having a dovetail on the underside to drive into the rear sight slot.  Seemed to work OK for the little shooting I did with it, but the bar was not held as rigidly against the brl. as it would be if glued.


  
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Reply #7 - Feb 20th, 2018 at 7:54am
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If I was mounting a Unertl with a glued on bar would add a couple of zip ties as insurance. Fly off and break cost big bucks.

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Reply #8 - Feb 20th, 2018 at 12:17pm
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Sounds limethis might be a good place to try rare earth magnets.
  

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Reply #9 - Feb 20th, 2018 at 1:13pm
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Rare earth magnets are fine by me, but I can see some discussion forming about the molecular structure of the barrel's frisben surfaces contaminating the fluid dispersal of the sludge orbits in the powder residue off to the side, where it'll do the most harm. This, of course, is not much trouble to the offhand shooter in a wind storm on a sub-freezing morning, but can disperse the anti- coagulants on the lower barrel lands while shooting off the bench. Makes the bullet fly different if the lube contains iron shavings or Hershey's milk chocolate. Of, course, there could be some more serious reasons to avoid magnets, but I haven't explored all the facets of this.  Roll Eyes
  
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Reply #10 - Feb 20th, 2018 at 1:21pm
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Don't mess with the Earth's magnetic field.
If the rifle is shot north to south, (magnetic, not true) the field may collapse.
This has happened before in Earth's history.(Where do you think democrats come from.)
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Reply #11 - Feb 20th, 2018 at 2:22pm
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If the targets are at magnetic north shooting lead bullets,  none of that will matter.  Of course shooting copper jacketed  bullets through a magnetic field will certainly disqualify the shooter since the resulting high voltage bullet would be an electrical device and they are barred for use in the rules.  Should be ok for electrocuting varmints, deer and other game animals.  Should be a great advantage in winter to have a hot meal precooked when the skinning is completed.
  

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Reply #12 - Feb 20th, 2018 at 2:47pm
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Another problem would be getting your breech seater unstuck from the rifle.  Wink
  
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Reply #13 - Feb 20th, 2018 at 6:46pm
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Mine is  nonferrous  Grin
  

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Reply #14 - Feb 20th, 2018 at 7:16pm
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Zeke,  Please think twice before you ask another interesting question--you see what it can lead to.
  
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