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Winchester 1885 Question
Feb 11th, 2018 at 11:36am
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Here's the dilemma: I bought a flat spring low wall with a single set trigger and a non-fly hammer. A proper set trigger hammer was also purchased along with new knockoff spring and screw. All reassembled and it shoots great, set trigger functions correctly but the lever lowers the hammer far enough that the hammer spur sinks into the receiver and hangs up. What limits the depth to which the hammer is lowered? Of more immediate concern, how do I correct this?
  
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Re: Winchester 1885 Question
Reply #1 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 11:53am
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Close the lever very slowly and watch the breech block as it gets close to top dead center. The  breech block should then lower slightly and at the same time the lever should bottom out on the little web in the lower tang. Also, when you fire the gun do you get a center hit on the primer? if not it might be a problem with the link.
  
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Reply #2 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 2:01pm
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What Old-Win said sounds possible. I've not had that happen, but links have been sloppy, or the pins. Replacing one,or both can sure make a difference.
Nice looking rifle, and I sure hope you get it tuned up to your liking.
  
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Reply #3 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 2:54pm
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rr2241x seems to be having trouble when he opens the action all the way.

The movement of the lever and therefore the block and hammer is stopped by surfaces on the pivot area of the lever. You'll see a stop surface on the lever where the curved surface stops and drops down to the pivot area. this ledge stops against a surface on the reciever just in front of the pivot. Hold the gun upside down and watch the pivot area while you open the action. You'll see the two areas come into contact when the lever is fully open.

If the spur of the hammer is dropping into the receiver when fully opened, there are several things that could be happening. One, the hammer spur has been bent down, possibly to provide thumb clearance with a scope. Two, a shorter link has been installed to adjust firing pin alignment and it pulls the block too low. Three, someone has "adjusted" the lever stop surfaces on the pivot. 

One solution I've used when I've had to bend the hammer spur for a low mounted scope is to file the hammer slot in the frame. It needs to be extended to the rear enough for the hammer to clear on its way back up. The hammer flops around when the block is lowered and the shape of the spur guides it into the slot but catches on the way back up.
  

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Reply #4 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 5:48pm
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I see now what you're talking about.  It's the bottom of the down stroke that's giving you problems.  For some reason, I had it in my noggin that you were talking about the action just before closing, I'm sorry.  Bob
  
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Reply #5 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 6:20pm
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  That's a nice piece of lumber on the forend. What's the butstock look like?
  

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Reply #6 - Feb 11th, 2018 at 7:02pm
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I can see the entire rifle by scrolling over using the bar at the bottom of my screen. It's a handsome little rifle, I think.
  
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Reply #7 - Feb 12th, 2018 at 9:24am
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What kind (make) of a tang sight is that?
  
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Reply #8 - Feb 12th, 2018 at 12:13pm
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Thanks everybody. The firing pin hits center. The hammer is current production from MVA and the only modification to it was a little relief filing on the bosses for clearance. With the hammer it had in it when I purchased the rifle the hammer spur came to rest just about flush with the receiver. Time for some measuring.  That tang sight is unmarked as far as I can tell. It might have something stamped on the bottom surface of the base but when I had it loosened that wasn't what I was interested in. It has a tight spot in the rotation, so I think the adjusting screw is a little bent. As there is no windage adjustment on either sight other than drifting the front sight, that tang sight is likely to be relegated to the junk drawer soon. Trying to decide whether my (extremely suspect) wind reading skills justify spending $400 on a Soule for an offhand rifle or not.
  
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Reply #9 - Feb 12th, 2018 at 3:20pm
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Bigskybob wrote on Feb 12th, 2018 at 9:24am:
What kind (make) of a tang sight is that?


The tang sight looks like a WRA 38 pattern. There were repro copies made of it.
  

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