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John Boy Ex Member	Re: Smokeless lube Reply #15 - Apr 29^th, 2017 at 11:36pm	Print Post
	Quote: Javelina Schuetzen Lube is not a 50/50 mix of Alox and beeswax. Quote: The commercial bullet lube maker Javelina still lists the original NRA formula of 50/50 yellow beeswax and Alox 2138F as available. This is a bit puzzling considering it's nearly 50 years since 2138F has been manufactured. Lee markets "Lee Liquid Alox (LLA)" as a liquid lube for their tumble lube bullets but which Alox or it's source is unknown. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3987 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Smokeless lube Reply #16 - Apr 30^th, 2017 at 12:22pm	Print Post
	Not 50 years. I bought a 5 gal bucket of the 2138F maybe 20 years ago from the Alox Company.

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JerryH Frequent Elocutionist Offline ASSRA Member #10876 Posts: 1329 Location: Easton, CA Joined: Nov 9^th, 2014	Re: Smokeless lube Reply #17 - Apr 30^th, 2017 at 12:58pm	Print Post
	Quote: Quote: Javelina Schuetzen Lube is not a 50/50 mix of Alox and beeswax. Quote: The commercial bullet lube maker Javelina still lists the original NRA formula of 50/50 yellow beeswax and Alox 2138F as available. This is a bit puzzling considering it's nearly 50 years since 2138F has been manufactured. Lee markets "Lee Liquid Alox (LLA)" as a liquid lube for their tumble lube bullets but which Alox or it's source is unknown. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Javelina Lube is 50/50 (Alox/beeswax). Javelina Schuetzen Lube is 75/25 (Alox/beeswax). JerryH

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oneatatime Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4494 Location: Rocky Mountains Joined: Oct 30^th, 2011	Re: Smokeless lube Reply #18 - Apr 30^th, 2017 at 1:02pm	Print Post
	Why has no one mentioned that Javelina Lube and Javelina Schuetzen Lube are 2 different products? The former is 50/50 Alox/Beeswax and the latter 75/25 Alox Beeswax. Alox 2138 was replaced by Alox 350. Jerry, the maker of Schuetzen, posted last year that he would be accepting no new customers but could probably supply existing customers for about 10 years. Looks like Jerry beat me to it!


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John Boy Ex Member	Re: Smokeless lube Reply #19 - Apr 30^th, 2017 at 7:33pm	Print Post
	Quote: Why has no one mentioned that Javelina Lube and Javelina Schuetzen Lube are 2 different products? Well, if there is a difference between Javelina Lube and Javelina Schuetzen Lube, then someone better call Paul or Gail Shuttleworth and let them know they are using the wrong ratios for their Javelina Schuetzen Lube that they make & sell ... (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links);
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JerryH Frequent Elocutionist Offline ASSRA Member #10876 Posts: 1329 Location: Easton, CA Joined: Nov 9^th, 2014	Re: Smokeless lube Reply #20 - Apr 30^th, 2017 at 8:19pm	Print Post
	Quote: Quote: Why has no one mentioned that Javelina Lube and Javelina Schuetzen Lube are 2 different products? Well, if there is a difference between Javelina Lube and Javelina Schuetzen Lube, then someone better call Paul or Gail Shuttleworth and let them know they are using the wrong ratios for their Javelina Schuetzen Lube that they make & sell ... (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links); I'll let Gail know she has the wrong ratio listed, but suspect that was a mistake as she knows what the ratio is. By the way, they don't make it, they only sell it. JerryH
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PORK AND BEANS Junior Member Offline Posts: 70 Location: clovis,ca Joined: Sep 13^th, 2009	Re: Smokeless lube Reply #21 - May 1^st, 2017 at 11:19am	Print Post
	Was that Barney coming to the realization that he doesn't know everything after all or Just, I got my mine made up so don't try to change it with the facts. The original question was can one use a smokeless lube in a black powder rifle? Yes you can, as long as you are wiping after each shot. You don't have to worry about using a lube(SPG) to keep the fouling soft as you have already remove the fouling. Rich$


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Dewphd Participating Member Offline Posts: 21 Location: Colorado Joined: Jan 29^th, 2017	Re: Smokeless lube Reply #22 - May 1^st, 2017 at 1:52pm	Print Post
	Thanks Rich.


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7675 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Smokeless lube Reply #23 - May 1^st, 2017 at 3:14pm	Print Post
	Joe, I'm glad you clearified it! I thought it was OT, too, until you told us the REAL story I had thought he looked that way, because he just discovered that his radio was set on the wrong station Frank

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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3822 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: Smokeless lube Reply #24 - May 1^st, 2017 at 3:32pm	Print Post
	I thought he was doing that because he just heard "May the bird of paradise fly up your nose" on the radio. Jack

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calledflyer Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3995 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Smokeless lube Reply #25 - May 1^st, 2017 at 5:40pm	Print Post
	Andy told him that he only uses the old recipe that aunt Bea cooks up in the kitchen before a match. Lard, okra and cornstarch. Called it Super Schuetzen Lube and lunch.


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