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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Casting lead bullets with 1987 Hoch nose pour mold Apr 26^th, 2017 at 1:46pm	Print Post
	There are those who either hate the Hoch moulds or absolutely Love them. If one knows how to adjust the sprue plates correctly its hard to find a more enjoyable mould to cast with. The Pope style bullet is real hard to beat as well and I have shot some of my very best targets with it in both the 32-40 and 38-55. JLouis

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John Boy Ex Member	Re: Casting lead bullets with 1987 Hoch nose pour mold Reply #1 - Apr 26^th, 2017 at 4:04pm	Print Post
	KL - any mold will cast completely filled out bullets and no need to have to put 20 bad bullets back in the pot if: * Heat the melt and mold up to 730 * Then with a 5 second pour and the sprue puddle frosts in 5 - 8 seconds = good bullets with rhythm casting will be a small Bell Curve Weight Also read this ... (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Casting lead bullets with 1987 Hoch nose pour mold Reply #2 - Apr 26^th, 2017 at 5:17pm	Print Post
	Ken here are the two Hoch Pope Style Bullet 200yd. targets the top 32-40 and the bottom 38-55. 32-40 14.7grs. H108 & Winchester Large Rifle Magnum Primers 38-55 17.1grs. 300MP & Winchester Large Rifle Magnum Primers Lube for both Dell59C and Breech Seated (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) JLouis
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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: Casting lead bullets with 1987 Hoch nose pour mold Reply #3 - Apr 26^th, 2017 at 6:39pm	Print Post
	Nice targets John. I have seen comments aboit your proper adjustment of Hoch's sprue plate several times. What is your proper adjustment?

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Casting lead bullets with 1987 Hoch nose pour mold Reply #4 - Apr 26^th, 2017 at 7:04pm	Print Post
	Bob it is just creating an equal space all the way across the top of the mould while also pushing up on the bottom plate. If you hold it up to a light you clearly see any slight differance in the lighting going accros the top. Or you could use a feeler guauge which ever is easier. Out of those I have bought all new I never lucked into that was adjusted quite right. I also adjust it to swing freely when hot but not overly free or it tends to fin on the base and if too tight slightly rounded edges. I think they are probably adjusted correctly when made but seem to change maybe based on regional temp. changes or just my luck to get the ones that were not. It was also quite typical to have to re-adjust them from time to time but not often maybe once or twice a year is all. JLouis

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Casting lead bullets with 1987 Hoch nose pour mold Reply #5 - Apr 26^th, 2017 at 7:26pm	Print Post
	Thank you for the compliments on the targets. The only real reason I like to show them is to show others how well some of the Large Rifle Magnum primers can perform and with the 300MP the Winchester's have worked out the best for me. These were shot back before my wrist surgery when I could still use the lube pumps and Dell 59C. I noticed you had some for sale awhile back its a good Lube but more so for the pumps than for pan lubing, it sets so hard I can't push the bullets out of the cake with my bad wrist. The lube I'am using now and have for several years is 75% Javelina Schuetzen Lube and 25% Dell59C. I have tried just the opposite and 50-50 but this mix has been the best for my use and is noted as being JJ250 on my equipment lists and or match targets. With the additional 25% of the Dell added I get allot more cake shrinkage than just straight JSL and it just makes it easier to get the cake out of the pan and it might possibly fill the grooves better with the added shrinkage but I really tend to doubt it to be so. I actualy believe I was using 300MP on the 32-40 Target and just wrote it down wrong as once I started using it I have not used anything other than in all three of my rifles since? JLouis
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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: Casting lead bullets with 1987 Hoch nose pour mold Reply #6 - Apr 26^th, 2017 at 11:26pm	Print Post
	My 33 Hoch mold seems to be ok. It hasn't gotten out of whack in about 25 years and thousands of bullets.

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Casting lead bullets with 1987 Hoch nose pour mold Reply #7 - Apr 27^th, 2017 at 12:07am	Print Post
	Great news Bob! I would not try to discourage anyone from buying one they are indeed a good choice based on my own personal experiances and I would enourage others to give them a real honest try. JLouis

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