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Reply #15 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 11:34pm
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They're easy to find in the grass. Other than that I'm not impressed with them in rifle brass. Don't mind them in handgun brass.
  
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Reply #16 - Feb 16th, 2017 at 12:20am
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Check out these nickeled cases (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)

Wonder if BP will stretch them?
  

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Reply #17 - Feb 16th, 2017 at 1:26pm
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What about caliber conversions and wildcatting? There are probably guys writing for advice already on how to make .32-40 cases out of the upcoming .30-30 rounds from this company.  Smiley
  
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Reply #18 - Feb 16th, 2017 at 2:36pm
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westerner wrote on Feb 16th, 2017 at 2:21pm:
Looks like a weak design to me. Probably works good for light weight peppers like the 9MM.


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If they don't bring out rifle calibers, it probably is.
  

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Reply #19 - Feb 16th, 2017 at 3:06pm
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In a serious turn that's rare for me, I doubt that this company will even end up making it for a year or so. The other oddball things that have come and gone will soon be joined by this one, I venture. So, get a couple for your cartridge collection while ya can. Put it next to the Teflon bullet you have somewhere.
  
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Reply #20 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 2:28am
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Has anyone compared case weights & case volumes, nickled vs regular for rifle cartridge cases?
  
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Reply #21 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 8:05am
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Joe,  how would you know?   Grin Grin Grin
  

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Reply #22 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 8:27am
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In my opinion when using voluminous cases like the 32-40 with smokeless powders the small differences between brands of cases or between brass and nickel cases is meaningless. If you are using a powder that approaches full capacity that it will make a difference. But using a case that has 4 or 5 times the volume needed to hold a 14 ½ grain charge I doubt seriously there is a measurable difference.

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Reply #23 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 9:04am
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probably very true John,  especially if we are breech seating with low=power/pressure in basically straight walled cases  with very little change the case at all for shot to shot.   

However,  what I am doing is using a cut down 45-70 case,  (though not cut down very much only to 1.8" overall) with mostly the 400 grain jacketed soft/flat point bullets for hunting loads.  I have a lifetime supply of those bullets, and maybe enough for whoever winds up with the rifle after I'm gone.   

   If I really get bored I may bring it down and try to shoot some "third class" matches with cast bullets if I can find a mold of equal weight and bullet profile just to see how it does at 200 yards.   but it'll basically be a hunting rifle now than MI and IN have legalized a range of big bore "pistol" cartridges in rifles for deer hunting. this will basically be the 460 S&W cartridge, but designed to use the 45-70 Rugers.458 barrel and my supply of bullets instead of the .452 pistol bullets and bore of the .$60 S&W.    {I figure if a .32 Dell and all its variations is basically a reduced capacity 32-40; a shortened 45-70 case for modern powders should work just as well  Wink Wink}
  

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Reply #24 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 2:25pm
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I keep my single shots' cases in lots that are matched by headstamp, and  usually the same box stays together its entire life. Once in a while I weigh some to see if new ones are much different than old ones. Don't change loads, just for head scratchin' (or scratching somewhere else while wondering why I'm weighing cases). So....
I just went and weighed some nickeled 'Duke' .32-40 and average was 136.1 gr. The same was done on some new W-W and they averaged 134.8 gr. Not enough to get sweaty over, and it may not be from the nickle plate either.   
  
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Reply #25 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 3:55pm
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westerner wrote on Feb 16th, 2017 at 2:48pm:
Two piece 40-70 Remington brass was available in the old days. Wished I had one. Steel heads. 


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Just turn you some Remington-style steel case heads, and then roll up your powder charge in nitrated papers.    Wink
  

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Reply #26 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 4:17pm
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Naw. 
Them percussion Sharps shooters and muzzle-stuffer reinactors got that all figured out, without the bats.
  

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Reply #27 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 7:18pm
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Back to the Winchester-made "John Wayne" nickel cases in 32-40, I watched Chuck Blender campaign the same couple of hundred of those cases for several years,and when I asked him about how well they lasted he looked at me kind of blankly as if to ask, "You mean they ever wear out?"  This was a good 10 years after Winchester had quit selling them, and I believe he got them when they were current production.  Keep in mind, Chuck shot a LOT!

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Reply #28 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 7:23pm
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I used to shoot a lot more than I do now, but I've been using the same brass WW cases in my 33-47 since about 1991. When the primer pocket gets lose, they go.  I have not used 100 yet. Never counted the number of shot per case, but it is in the hundreds.
  

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Reply #29 - Mar 1st, 2017 at 8:47am
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I can offer this for a comparison between nickel plated and brass cases. With near max loads in 357 Magnum used in my revolvers, I'm seeing the brass cases lasting much longer than nickel plated. 
When I first started shooting 357 revolvers about 6 years ago I initially bought two 50 round boxes of ammo, one each of nickel plated and brass.
Other than the original factory loads, both boxes have seen about a dozen reloads with identical near max loads of either 2400 or Unique and the same hard lead 158 gr SWC bullet. 
The nickel cases are down to less than 15, the brass has lost 6. All failures were small splits at the case mouth. That's roughly a 6:1 ratio in failure rate. 
And my 38 Special nickel cases don't last as long as brass, though I get many more reloadings out of them than the 357 Mag cases because they are mostly target loads. 

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