Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 [2] 3 4  Send TopicPrint
Very Hot Topic (More than 25 Replies) Recommend a pet load for 32-40 (Read 19958 times)
jy3855
Senior Forum Member
****
Offline



Posts: 368
Location: California
Joined: Jul 13th, 2015
Re: Recommend a pet load for 32-40
Reply #15 - Dec 20th, 2016 at 7:19pm
Print Post  
By the way, Timber, you got a steal on that High Wall rifle.  I looked at the pictures in the other thread and that is a beautiful rifle, and evidently built up by a master. Wonderful, I hope you have a great time with it.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Timber
Participating Member
*
Offline



Posts: 39
Joined: Dec 20th, 2016
Re: Recommend a pet load for 32-40
Reply #16 - Dec 20th, 2016 at 7:58pm
Print Post  
I NEVER GET LUCKY!  But thanks, only way I could enter this sport. I initially was just interested in scope, left gun store, called Squirrel Pizza, and he made me (not really, but it helped.. ) go back and get it. I had no idea about .32-40, Winchester high walls, I was totally nieve.  Know I know what "breech loading", "loads for .32-40", etc. etc. etc.  And I pray my wife doesn't know who "Timber"  (e.g. me) is!

Although it doesn't matter, What would rifle, scope, 500 brass, 500 (now 450...) cast bullets, and sizing/bullet seat die go for in your opinion?  Not retail, but what it would "sell" at?

I'm hoping I can get 1" at 100 yards (bench) but didn't happen on first 50 loads.

Thanks again.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
bpjack
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 3817
Location: East Olympia, WA
Joined: May 18th, 2008
Re: Recommend a pet load for 32-40
Reply #17 - Dec 20th, 2016 at 7:59pm
Print Post  
The advice that I received a few years back from Westerner to cure vertical stringing by varying the powder charge slightly up or down has served me well.

Jack
  

People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do.
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Timber
Participating Member
*
Offline



Posts: 39
Joined: Dec 20th, 2016
Re: Recommend a pet load for 32-40
Reply #18 - Dec 20th, 2016 at 8:09pm
Print Post  
Thanks...certainly going to try that.

QUESTION - where do you folks get your bullets?  Not easy to find stuff folks talk about...I presume a lot of the bullets discussed are from vintage molds?   

And is it sacrilege (or stupid) to use jacketed bullets in a Briesen barrel? I honestly don't know, but also ain't trying it unless a lot of folks say it is okay...

I did find some molds, but holly cow they are EXPENSIVE! I have never laid 3 figures on a mold (all I have cast for are round balls for Flintlock...).
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
FITZ
Oldtimer
*****
Offline


REGARDS

Posts: 917
Location: MASSACHUSETTS
Joined: Apr 16th, 2004
Re: Recommend a pet load for 32-40
Reply #19 - Dec 20th, 2016 at 9:11pm
Print Post  
Timber, many years ago I did some tests from Bench with Powder location in both 32-40 and 38-55. Found that with the Powder settled to the back of the case and handled so I did not disturb it the 32-40 would shoot very good, but if I just slid the Loaded case in and brought the rifle down without bumping the powder back it would shoot Vertical strings with very little Horizontal spread. When I shot my 38-55 it was the same until I put a 1/32" Cork wad down over the powder about .100" off the powder charge it tightened the group right up to a loose 
1" diameter at 200 Yds. The Bumping back is not terribly distracting and can be done at will. You might want to try that.
HTH Regards, FITZ. Smiley
  

FITZ
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Timber
Participating Member
*
Offline



Posts: 39
Joined: Dec 20th, 2016
Re: Recommend a pet load for 32-40
Reply #20 - Dec 20th, 2016 at 9:34pm
Print Post  
Thank you Fitz!  I wondered about powder charges that only fill 1/3 or so of the cartridge case.  Need some wads anyway so I give it a try.

Maybe it's the load, one day find out...

Of course it could be the shooter but I had the rifle in training wheels (bench rest contraption). And with 20 power scope ( which I have never had before) you can sure quarter up that orange sticker up real easy...   

Timber
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Squirrel Pizza
Participating Member
*
Offline



Posts: 36
Location: Crossville Tn.
Joined: Dec 4th, 2016
Re: Recommend a pet load for 32-40
Reply #21 - Dec 20th, 2016 at 9:37pm
Print Post  
You never get lucky huh? What about having me to give you such sound financial advice?
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
frnkeore
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 7674
Location: Central Point, OR 97502
Joined: Jun 16th, 2010
Re: Recommend a pet load for 32-40
Reply #22 - Dec 20th, 2016 at 11:02pm
Print Post  
Timber wrote on Dec 20th, 2016 at 9:34pm:
Thank you Fitz!  I wondered about powder charges that only fill 1/3 or so of the cartridge case.  Need some wads anyway so I give it a try.


Timber

Be very careful about using wads. Fitz wasn't recommending wads for the 32/40, it was for the 38/55.  It has a straight interior, 32/40 is tapered inside and those type of wads won't work and will fall against the powder.

If you do decide to try any kind of wads BE SURE, NOT to put the wads down against the powder. Note he said .100 off the powder.

I do not use any wads, at all because, I have budged a chamber that way. The wad was in contact with the powder.

Frank
  

ASSRA Member #696, ISSA Member #339
Back to top
YIMAIM  
IP Logged
 
jy3855
Senior Forum Member
****
Offline



Posts: 368
Location: California
Joined: Jul 13th, 2015
Re: Recommend a pet load for 32-40
Reply #23 - Dec 20th, 2016 at 11:04pm
Print Post  
Timber, I'm not a good appraiser as far as prices go compared to many of the folks here, but I went back and looked at all of the kit you got with the rifle.  I have no idea what the scope is worth.  My guess, though, is that you may have easily saved $1,000 or more over what the rifle might have gone for on an auction site. If I walked into a store and saw that rifle for the price you paid, I would have bought it on the spot, no hesitation as long as it had a good bore.

Others here might have a more accurate estimate of its worth.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Timber
Participating Member
*
Offline



Posts: 39
Joined: Dec 20th, 2016
Re: Recommend a pet load for 32-40
Reply #24 - Dec 21st, 2016 at 7:45am
Print Post  
Frank, thank you. No wad for me! I know one is used under bullet in black powder but had no idea it could jump pressures by being in  the cartridge in wrong spot.  Thanks again for the caution.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Baja_Traveler
Participating Member
*
Offline



Posts: 33
Location: San Diego
Joined: Feb 11th, 2011
Re: Recommend a pet load for 32-40
Reply #25 - Dec 21st, 2016 at 2:00pm
Print Post  
bpjack wrote on Dec 19th, 2016 at 10:11pm:
My go to load is now 12.4 gr of 300MP with a 200-208 gr bullet....  

Jack


This is the fourth reference I've read (on various forums) on using 300MP in the 32-40. I had bought a pound of it for my 44 Redhawk after a silhouette shooting buddy had excellent results. I set up my Harrell's to drop 12.5 grains and was amazed at what a tiny amount it was! This powder is so fine that it should drop very consistently and I'll be giving it a try at this weekends scheutzen match if it is not raining (but I'm bringing my can of 4227 just in case I don't like what I see).
Another powder that was recommended to me is Accurate #9...
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
JLouis
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 10625
Joined: Apr 8th, 2009
Re: Recommend a pet load for 32-40
Reply #26 - Dec 21st, 2016 at 2:55pm
Print Post  
300MP for me has been an excellent powder not only in the 32-40 but also in my 28-35SS and 25-21 as well. My 8th 8lb jug is just about empty so now going on having used 64lbs. it is not just an opinion but it has proven to be an excellent powder for my competitive use. In the 32-40 and using roughly a 200gr. bullet 14.2 to 14.4 grains depending on the temp. for the day has worked extremely well for me. It is also the powder I used to set the new ASSRA 100yd. 5-5 Shot Group Average Record. The lot to lot consistency from one lot number to next has also been extremly excellent and I highly recommend the powder. It has also proven to be quite a bit more consistant than 4227 day in and day out and through all of the temp. ranges from the 30's to over 100 for me. Once you find a primer it likes and you need to should try them all including the magnums I think you will be extremely pleased. My rifle and 32-40 pet load prefers the Winchester Large Rifle Magnum Primers, the 28-35SS Federal 210's and the 25-21 Wolf Small Rilfe.

I hope this was somewhat helpful and if you have any questions please send them to me Via a PM if you would like them to be addressed.

JLouis
  

" It Is Better To Now Have Been A Has Been Than A Never Was Or A Wanna Be "
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
40_Rod
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline


Extremism in the persuit
of accuracy is not a
vice

Posts: 4285
Location: Knoxville, TN
Joined: Apr 20th, 2004
Re: Recommend a pet load for 32-40
Reply #27 - Dec 22nd, 2016 at 10:06am
Print Post  
As Fitz councils powder placement is critical when shooting large cases with relatively small charges of powder. A wad can be helpful in holding the powder in place but NEVER place the wad down on to the powder this is the surest road to ringing your chamber. Keep the wad at least .050” off the powder. Fillers can also be a problem. The 14.5 grains of 4227 is a starting place. If after you learn to control your powder placement you are still getting vertical stringing that is an indication you need to adjust your powder charge. 

40 Rod
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
bnice
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 1964
Location: Iowa
Joined: Nov 30th, 2006
Re: Recommend a pet load for 32-40
Reply #28 - Dec 22nd, 2016 at 1:06pm
Print Post  
I think that could also be caused by your rest and rifle position and varying the way the gun recoils. JMO. Just seems extremely tight horizontal to rule out mechanical response issues. Again JMO
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Timber
Participating Member
*
Offline



Posts: 39
Joined: Dec 20th, 2016
Re: Recommend a pet load for 32-40
Reply #29 - Dec 22nd, 2016 at 6:56pm
Print Post  
"bnice"...I think you are more right than not...I was having issues with figuring out how to hold rifle in a new bench rest thing I got.  The M1a, then the .270, then the new to me 32-40. It really showed itself when I switched to .22's (of course much less exaggerated with .22 and easier to correct).  Was having recoil consistency issues with all.  Weird you thought of it, it was on my mind then, but I sinceforgot about it.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 
Send TopicPrint