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Under barrel hanger on Stevens 56
Dec 14th, 2016 at 3:51pm
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Hi, I've discovered a lot of special features on this Ladies stevens.  But I can't figure out what this "hanger" is for.  Does anyone know?  At first I thought it was for a palm rest, but that's not it, it's way too far forward, on the barrel about 4" in front of the wood.   

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Re: Under barrel hanger on Stevens 56
Reply #1 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 4:06pm
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No idea, but not an original Stevens item.
  
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Reply #2 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 4:17pm
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My only thought is that, maybe it was used to attach a ring, for a sling, when hunting.

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Reply #3 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 4:52pm
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I just saw in the 1909 catalog "Extras" page, "Screw Eyes with Swivel and Sling Strap."  It looked like where British rifles put sling straps.  So, what does a Stevens version of that look like?

Update: The other barrel, a 24" No. 1 (I believe, and I believe the above is a no. 3), has a ring "elbow sling" fitting, just like this one.  Perhaps popular during the period this one was made, which I'd guess around 1915 due to the Lyman 103 sight.  You sure it's not a Stevens factory item?  Of course, I couldn't imagine shooting the swiss butt prone.   

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Re: Under barrel hanger on Stevens 56
Reply #4 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 6:37pm
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That eyelet dovetailed into the brl was used by both Stevens & Winchester, maybe others, probably supplied by some outside source like Bridgeport Gun Implement co.  I was thinking the device on your brl wasn't a sling attachment because there's no matching swivel on the buttstock, but the gun in the above photo illustrates that two aren't needed if a cuff-type sling is used.
  
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Re: Under barrel hanger on Stevens 56
Reply #5 - Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:36pm
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I need one for my Bisley Model Stevens.
  
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slumlord44 wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 9:36pm:
I need one for my Bisley Model Stevens.


Buckingham's used to sell pretty decent repros. 
  
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Re: Under barrel hanger on Stevens 56
Reply #7 - Dec 15th, 2016 at 10:21am
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My guess is a shooting sling eye, and likely used with a quick removable hook similar to those used in Winchester slings of the 1800's. I believe S&S sells repros of the Winchester sling hooks, if you wanted one just for aesthetics.
  

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Reply #8 - Dec 15th, 2016 at 1:15pm
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Yeah, I see Wesley Richards sells a sling too.  Kind of steep, as expected. 

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Re: Under barrel hanger on Stevens 56
Reply #9 - Dec 15th, 2016 at 8:14pm
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I have these Brit hooks on a canvas sling for a Webley and Scott 1902 in 450-400 3 1/4. I covered the hooks with heat shrink tubing (and shrank it!) so that it wouldn't clank in use. I'm sure PHs would have removed the slings before giving the rifle to their bearers to carry. No use telegraphing the game that you are coming.
  
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Re: Under barrel hanger on Stevens 56
Reply #10 - Dec 15th, 2016 at 8:51pm
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The "loop" in the OP's picture is turned 90 degrees from the eye of the loop in the other Stevens picture's   (but the color case, if thats what it is,---looks Steverns-ish to me)   Were the sling's "hooks" swiveling so they could go through either eye's orientation?
  

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Reply #11 - Dec 15th, 2016 at 8:53pm
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Could I get more info on Buckinghams? Googled it and came up with a '60's band.
  
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slumlord44 wrote on Dec 15th, 2016 at 8:53pm:
Could I get more info on Buckinghams? Googled it and came up with a '60's band.


What!!! Never heard of that crazy old coot who made a living out of buying very decent Winchesters, and breaking them up for parts because there was more dough to be made that way?  For decades he advertised in Shotgun News & Gun List. He is (or was) from the Volunteer State, but I used to hang out with him at the big Texas shows, making disgusting remarks about every female that walked by.  I think he was slightly older than me, which means the the odds of him still being alive aren't good.

You might search "Buckingham Winchester parts," but I doubt that he has a website, even if he's still hanging on.
  
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Re: Under barrel hanger on Stevens 56
Reply #13 - Dec 16th, 2016 at 9:39am
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QuestionableMaynard8130 wrote on Dec 15th, 2016 at 8:51pm:
The "loop" in the OP's picture is turned 90 degrees from the eye of the loop in the other Stevens picture's   (but the color case, if thats what it is,---looks Steverns-ish to me)   Were the sling's "hooks" swiveling so they could go through either eye's orientation?


It's worn bluing, as if a hook was used on it for many years.  It's all speculation, but since everything else on the rifle, except the scope, is vintage 1915 or so, I'm thinking the hanger was there since the gun was new.  The 103 sight also seems to be original, it has some makes in the stock at the wrist from it sitting on the wood, folded, for years. 

The rifle seems to have several special order features, and perhaps this was another one that is seldom seen.  Or perhaps the owner had it installed later.   

The front globe site is another enigma.  Nothing marked on it, but the one aperture has two numbers engraved in an old style font.   
  
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Reply #14 - Dec 16th, 2016 at 3:42pm
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slumlord44 wrote on Dec 15th, 2016 at 8:53pm:
Could I get more info on Buckinghams? Googled it and came up with a '60's band.

Buckingham had half page ads in the Single Shot Exchange and in other mags.
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Assuming you went with Buckingham to the shows in Huston at Astro Hall?
  

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Reply #15 - Dec 16th, 2016 at 3:59pm
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Dixie Gun Works also carries the Winchester sling hooks, and cheaper than anyone else.
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BP wrote on Dec 16th, 2016 at 3:42pm:

Redsetter,
Assuming you went with Buckingham to the shows in Huston at Astro Hall?


Oh, yesss....
  
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marlinguy wrote on Dec 16th, 2016 at 3:59pm:
Dixie Gun Works also carries the Winchester sling hooks, and cheaper than anyone else.
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These are crude looking compared to the ones Buck used to sell--they'd fall out of the eyelets, unless the open end of the hook can be bent back to leave a gap of no more than about 1/8".  The kits he sold also included an eyelet on a wood screw and another for attaching to the brl. by dovetailing or soldering.  I installed them on 4 or 5 of the SSs I used to hunt with, and liked them as well as QD swivels.

Don't know who was actually making them--I think Cape Outfitters also sold them.
  
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Reply #18 - Dec 16th, 2016 at 7:27pm
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Cape Outfitters is now Jeff's Outfitters.  Under the old name it was the original importers of the dreaded mini-Fraser finished rifles and kits.  Can't say anything about the quality of their current products.

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Reply #19 - Dec 16th, 2016 at 9:24pm
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Jeff's Outfitters has shown them out of stock for a very long time!
  

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Redsetter wrote on Dec 16th, 2016 at 6:59pm:



These are crude looking compared to the ones Buck used to sell--they'd fall out of the eyelets, unless the open end of the hook can be bent back to leave a gap of no more than about 1/8". 



If a guy can't bend those little hooks slightly closed, he probably ought to sell all his tools.
  

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marlinguy wrote on Dec 16th, 2016 at 9:27pm:


If a guy can't bend those little hooks slightly closed, he probably ought to sell all his tools.


True, but why should he have to at $40 a pop?   
  
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Reply #22 - Dec 16th, 2016 at 10:03pm
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Bill Lawrence wrote on Dec 16th, 2016 at 7:27pm:
Cape Outfitters is now Jeff's Outfitters.  Under the old name it was the original importers of the dreaded mini-Fraser finished rifles and kits.
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Also several well-made repro sights--their Stevens graduated tang sight was just about perfect, except for the pivot screw.
  
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Re: Under barrel hanger on Stevens 56
Reply #23 - Dec 17th, 2016 at 10:44am
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Redsetter wrote on Dec 16th, 2016 at 10:00pm:
marlinguy wrote on Dec 16th, 2016 at 9:27pm:


If a guy can't bend those little hooks slightly closed, he probably ought to sell all his tools.


True, but why should he have to at $40 a pop?  


Because not all sling eyes are the same. And $40 a pair is half or less than what anyone else charges. Takes all of maybe 30 seconds to do both of them. Try and make them for less.
  

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