The old stories telling of the hunters sitting around in the evening making ammo and "cleaning" the gun doesn't mean they hadn't swabbed the bore 'tween shots, at least now and then. Just not mentioned doesn't mean it hadn't happened. It may only indicate the "cleaning" of the rest of the rifle and lubing it. It could easily be an oblique reference to the job he was doing at the ol' campfire. 
Quigley sure shot dirty, but then, he snapped shots at hundreds of yards, too. Just like real life.

westerner wrote on Jul 20^th, 2016 at 9:37am:


Did anyone try shooting that steel buffalo in specific places, like nose, tail, ear, or was everyone just going for whole critter hits? Or was this a micro-midget buffer, say 10cm tall??

Grisen

OK, I held back on this powder because it is no longer being imported into the US ... KIK
* May 2011 - Ridgway - Uberti 38-55 - 25 & 25 rounds of KIK, lot 2009 -  1.5Fg and FFg ( 42grs) - Ideal 375166 (330gr)
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All 50 rounds rounds shot with accuracy from 500m to 200m with no tubing or patching ... minimum vernier adjustments from my standard settings
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it is clearly stated in "trajectories of modern rifles" that they shot some of them dirty.
the groups shown are reasonably acceptable, and needed to be for measuring trajectories.
George gibbs fired 50 rounds straight and put 48 of then into a 36" bull at 1000 yds, the other 2 shots barely missing.
in fact the brits were not allowed to wipe in long range contests.
the 40/65 win was chambered in repeaters. not much point unless they would shoot dirty.
original ammo for sharps creedmoor rifles was loaded with a grease wad, suggesting an intent to shoot dirty, even if blowtubing.
later ammo was not, telling us what we already know, that wiping done correctly is the most accurate.
bullets for wiping must be patched to bore or a little bigger to reap the rewards of the technique, and as chris says, cannot be chambered in a dirty barrel.
a lot of the old bullets had a tapered section behind the ogive which would allow chambering with some clearance, allowing for fouling, and bump up to what space was available.
20:1 seems to be a common alloy for 40 / 2 1/2" type cases used in mid range and hunting applications, and this is a fairly soft alloy, prone to bumping up well.
so undersize soft bullets, grease wads either of tallow or containing whale oil, and the other thing not often thought of.
this is the use of bank note paper for patches. a very tough paper not prone to tearing on rough fouling, and not really available today.
then we come to the difference between shooting in humid climes compared to shooting in Arizona or Australia in mid summer.
we know they did it. we just have to learn what they took for granted so much that they did not bother to write it down.
I have been working on this for years without fully achieving total reliability in all conditions.
it would be very handy in a sil match, and in a prone target match as well.
keep safe,
bruce.

Joe,

Posted it earlier in this thread -- here is is again. Time to do better job of shooting. Plus inclinations of a life-long researcher.

Most others that tried "shooting dirty" some time ago used "tricks" that I find marginal or worse and powders I will not use. Grease cookies are not a substitute for a bullet that carries adequate lube. They may also have been operating outside the criteria listed by MartiniBelgian.

Grisen

When I see Grisen in the top three results, will start paying attention.

        Joe. 

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You don't need to worry, Joe. With my worsening eyesight and control of my trigger fingers, this BP target shooting is all for fun. And I do fully expect to shoot all my remaining BP matches "dirty".

Grisen

Sorry - no false muzzles on the Brit ML target rifles - they weren't allowed.  And yes, when pushing wads down the bore, you're effectively also pushing fouling down the bore.
As to the Britsshooting Match rifle drity in the 1880's - yes, they did - BUT they used the blowtube.  You can find blowtubes as part of shooter's kit, and Halford specifically mentions 'blowing down the barrel between shots'.