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May 18th, 2016 at 9:40pm
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Just received my new mould today. Looks great and cannot wait to give it a go. Thanks much frnkeore for your hard work getting this to happen.  Smiley

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Reply #1 - May 19th, 2016 at 1:59pm
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Received my mould today.  Mine is alum. Thanks frnkeore for all your hard work and head scratchin' for putting this buy together and thanks to NOE for offering a good deal on a great quality mould. 

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Reply #2 - May 19th, 2016 at 2:12pm
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Flatlander, how did you get my mold?   Wink
Mine are here too.  Look forward to using them after my trip.
  

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Pentz- great minds think alike? 

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Is this mold tapered??
  
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MT Chambers wrote on May 19th, 2016 at 5:11pm:
Is this mold tapered??


Yup.  quite a thread on it if you search.
  

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Reply #6 - May 19th, 2016 at 6:53pm
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As listed on the NOE Website:
  

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Reply #7 - May 19th, 2016 at 7:13pm
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Are you folks shooting this in a 16 twist based on the weight only being 187grs. per the drawing? Also trying to figure out why it was based on wheel weights of which is not at all typical for use with a plainbase bullet and not for a lead and tin alloy. Curiosity has the best of me with this particular bullet choice and it simply has me wondering about what exactly it will used for.

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Reply #8 - May 19th, 2016 at 7:59pm
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The NOE 325/187 casts a bullet of 195/196 gr depending on the alloy. Ledball
  
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Reply #9 - May 19th, 2016 at 8:40pm
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John, is this a trick question?   Undecided

If you look at  the mould makers' websites you will see most of them base bullet weight on wheel weights.
  

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Reply #10 - May 19th, 2016 at 9:53pm
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No not at all its just unusual to see such a light bullet being used if for breech seating and match use as the trend has been towards faster twists and heavier bullets George C unless one does not own such a thing. Based on my own personnel experience a lighter bullet provides less torque, recoil and rifle movement in the bags and a hug plus to obtaining a higher degree of consistent accuracy on the target and a move in the right direction! Bottom line is there is not a bullet made to date that can beat the wind and the faster twists and heavier bullets have become an aid in a quest to help ones inabilities and it brings with it more things to try and manage. A good example would be Jerry_H's success with his 25WCF using a 120gr. bullet and now having shot what 7 each 250's in competition all the while his rifle barely moves in the bags and the torque is almost non extant a hug plus. His abilities far exceed his inabilities as he has taken the time to understand the conditions and how to shoot them. He does not have to try and rely on the false hope that his bullet will shoot through them as some on this sight might seem to think it is actually possible. If a heavy bullet pushed by a fast twist moves 1 inch at 200yds. in say a 5MPH wind and Jerry's bullet moves lets say an 11/2 inches how much harder is it really to simply hold off that extra 1/2 inch that everyone is working so hard to shy away from while incurring more recoil, torque and movement in the bags and that is why this lighter bullet has aroused my curiosity, are there now those who are starting to realize this hug benefit and are now focusing on improving thier abilities as Jerry_H and others have done or is it simply becuase they have a rifle with a slow twist?

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Reply #11 - May 19th, 2016 at 10:10pm
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I concur with your hypothesis.  My first single shot was a Ballard Schuetzen, Jr. in .32-40.  The bullet weighed 165 grs. using wheel weights to cast them. I had an unlimited supply of used wheel weights. Although I could consistently shoot 1" to 1 1/2" groups at 100 yds. the accuracy really fell off at 200 yds.   

This was back in the 70s and not much information was available as there were very few Shuetzen shooters in the backwoods of North Florida and I didn't have the time or money to travel all over the country going to shoots.
  

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Reply #12 - May 19th, 2016 at 11:23pm
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J Louis:
Per your question, I am planning to use this in an original Ballard Union Hill with re-barreled 32-40 1-16 twist and a .320 groove. Hopefully the spitzer point will give less wind deflection than the customary flat nose. Currently I am just playing with different ideas and having fun.

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Reply #13 - May 19th, 2016 at 11:53pm
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Thank you George I never paid attention to wheel weights being used to determine bullet weights when ordering a mould and a first for me. Found it strange as wheel weights have been made with zinc for quite sometime now out my way and hopefully no one is still thinking other wise before possibly adding the newer variety to thier lead pot.

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Reply #14 - May 20th, 2016 at 12:39am
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Hi John, I'm planning to try mine in a 44.5 that Barry rebarreled back in 1976.  It's a 16 twist.  Love that rifle!

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