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cuslog Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 263 Location: Calgary, Alberta Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Lead shot ? May 4^th, 2016 at 12:14pm	Print Post
	So, I've got about 175 lbs of # 7-1/2 lead shot left over from my Trap shooting days. I'm thinking its probably pure lead ? Does anyone really know ? If so, does it need Tin added to make it a bit harder ? Also, its about 15 years old, oxidized -- any issues with that ?


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Lead shot ? Reply #1 - May 4^th, 2016 at 12:20pm	Print Post
	Chances are good that it's got a lot of antimony in it, and is already very hard. Probably arsenic, too. They used that when dropping shot from towers to increase surface tension, making for rounder shot.

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cuslog Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 263 Location: Calgary, Alberta Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: Lead shot ? Reply #2 - May 4^th, 2016 at 12:36pm	Print Post
	Hmmm, so probably not good for casting BPCR bullets. ?


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 7656 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Lead shot ? Reply #3 - May 4^th, 2016 at 12:52pm	Print Post
	It seems to me that lead shot is 2% antimony. You might get away using it for your application, by mixing 50/50 with pure lead and then adding 2% tin to it. Make a small batch and see how it shoots. I shot ww + 2% tin in my 45/70 for a few years, BSed with excellent groups (.60 - .84) @ 100. Frank

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12345 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Lead shot ? Reply #4 - May 4^th, 2016 at 1:06pm	Print Post
	I threw some lead shot in my pot of 40-1 one day. Had to throw all the lead out. Could not cast a bullet with it. Had to wire wheel the pot clean. Joe.

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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: Lead shot ? Reply #5 - May 4^th, 2016 at 1:12pm	Print Post
	westerner wrote on May 4^th, 2016 at 1:06pm: I threw some lead shot in my pot of 40-1 one day. Had to throw all the lead out. Could not cast a bullet with it. Had to wire wheel the pot clean. Joe. Probably had some zinc in it

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 7656 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Lead shot ? Reply #6 - May 4^th, 2016 at 1:13pm	Print Post
	westerner wrote on May 4^th, 2016 at 1:06pm: I threw some lead shot in my pot of 40-1 one day. Had to throw all the lead out. Could not cast a bullet with it. Had to wire wheel the pot clean. Joe. Joe, That might have been because it was coated with graphite or some other thing like moly. If so, it's it may not be a good idea to use the shot if it's new. Frank

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 7656 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Lead shot ? Reply #7 - May 4^th, 2016 at 1:17pm	Print Post
	Zinc? Very Bad! I had to throw away a batch of lead that had some in it Frank

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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: Lead shot ? Reply #8 - May 4^th, 2016 at 1:21pm	Print Post
	One of those interesting side trip one never forgets

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 7656 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Lead shot ? Reply #9 - May 4^th, 2016 at 1:24pm	Print Post
	Schuetzenmiester wrote on May 4^th, 2016 at 1:21pm: One of those interesting side trip one never forgets It's not so much the loosing the lead, as how frustrated you get try to cast with, before you figure out it has zinc in it. And then, you have to throw it away and clean the pot! Frank

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Schuetzenmiester Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 6707 Location: Cool Wet Side of WA Joined: Apr 27^th, 2008	Re: Lead shot ? Reply #10 - May 4^th, 2016 at 1:28pm	Print Post
	My zinc experience was when I was trying to cast bullets for the BP LR MATCH at Ottawa in 93. I almost panicked

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Lead shot ? Reply #11 - May 4^th, 2016 at 1:31pm	Print Post
	Sell it to a Pistol shooter who casts there own bullets they tend to like it and then buy some pure lead and tin. I played with various alloy recipes for about a year that contained varying amounts of antimony and it just didn't pan out for serious benchrest shooting. Ended up with a couple of 5 gal. buckets left over when all was said and done and a pistol shooter nabbed it all with great joy. JLouis

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cuslog Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 263 Location: Calgary, Alberta Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: Lead shot ? Reply #12 - May 4^th, 2016 at 2:06pm	Print Post
	Thanks guys, now I'm glad I asked -- probably just blow it off shooting some Trap -- or other less risky ventures. Just bought a brand new bottom pour lead pot -- I'd hate to contaminate it first go-around.


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rgchristensen Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 1188 Joined: Jan 2^nd, 2014	Re: Lead shot ? Reply #13 - May 4^th, 2016 at 2:24pm	Print Post
	I tried to melt some small shot one time that was a little corroded. The corrosion made a shell around the melted lead, and it wouldn't even coalesce into liquid until I mashed each pellet. Then had 1/2 lead and 1/2 dross. Unfortunate, as there were many 100's of #'s of the stuff available. CHRIS RGChristensen


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Lead shot ? Reply #14 - May 4^th, 2016 at 2:51pm	Print Post
	A wise choice it is always best to start out on the right foot. JLouis

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