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most poppular alloy mix
Mar 31st, 2016 at 6:56am
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I don't want to go into any great detail at the moment but I was advised by a breech seater manufacturer that you should not use bullets harder than 25-1 in his breech seater.
Just off the top of my head I would have thought that nearly everybody would be using bullets that hard, or even harder.
Your thoughts ?.
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Re: most poppular alloy mix
Reply #1 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 8:41am
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I use 20-1...I believe many do the same!
And with a Breech seater.

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Reply #2 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 9:15am
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When I started I used 25:1 everybody did Pope used it so that’s what everybody used. With my bench gun now I use 20:1 and find that, for me I get tighter groups. Either way if your bullet is a proper fit to your throat it shouldn’t make any difference to the seater.

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Reply #3 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 9:24am
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I use 16-1 

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Reply #4 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 9:45am
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20-1 is very hard to seat in my rifles. When seating a Paul Jones bullet with it's very slight taper, is all a Weber breech seater can do. 

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Reply #5 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 10:13am
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I use 20-1 with  Weber, and Weber style seaters and have no problems. 

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Reply #6 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 12:08pm
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I try to hold my mix between 20-1 and 16-1. 
I use two different testers, a Cabine Tree and a Lee, and still have some problems keeping my mix the way I want it.
  
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Reply #7 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 12:27pm
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9+1  WW/Lino for me.
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Reply #8 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 12:59pm
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Depends on application.

20:1 is OFTEN quoted.

Here, I am hearing 16:1 by some GOOD shooters.

I like tin heavy alloys.   

I do 20:1  Pb:Sn  and 11:1 WW:Sn

I'll have to move in on the 16:1 !
  
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Reply #9 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 1:49pm
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I use 22/1, I made the decision souly, just to get about 70 more bullets for my pound of tin, over 20/1.

The hardness differance on the BHN scale is 9.8 Vs 10. I'm not sure if it would show in accuracy and I haven't tested that.

Maybe I'm wasting 100% of my bullets, rather than getting 70 extra  Smiley

In the distant past, I had tested 25/1 Vs 30/1. In that test (one testing session), I got got better accuracy with the 30/1 but, after shooting it in matches, for about 6 months, my scores fell off. I went back to 25/1 and they picked up.

It takes longer term use to really know for sure and how well it works in your rifle.

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Reply #10 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 2:41pm
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Schuetzendave - please tell me you meant 820 ROUNDS!  820 lbs.?  Shocked OMG
  
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Reply #11 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 2:51pm
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One twenty pound pot per day would take 41 days. 

I prefer casting as I need them.  I like to experiment too.

         

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Reply #12 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 3:09pm
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You cast 820 pounds of bullets or ingots?

Most of my pure lead is in plumbers ingots. 


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Reply #13 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 3:22pm
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My bad... I thought you were talking about moulding bullets, not ingots.  Have to read much, more better.  Roll Eyes I usually do 15-20lbs when molding bullets.  Wears me out.
  
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Reply #14 - Mar 31st, 2016 at 4:47pm
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westerner wrote on Mar 31st, 2016 at 2:51pm:
One twenty pound pot per day would take 41 days. 

I prefer casting as I need them.  I like to experiment too.

         

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Stale bullets never smell as good as fresh  Smiley

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