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MVA sight question
Feb 29th, 2016 at 12:23pm
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I received some very good information on my front global sight question on another thread and a have a question now regarding the rear sight.

I'm looking at the Baldwin and MVA mid range sights.  

Anyone have any experience with either sight?

Anyone know what distances these are made for?  In their write up about the sights, it doesn't tell anything other than, long range, mid range, etc.

I like the adjustable eye piece on the Baldwin, but the MVA doesn't come with one.  Can an adjustable eyepiece be added to the MVA?

I also noticed on the MVA sight it appears to be easier to read with the hash marks on a white background.  Whereas the Baldwin sights only have them made into the side of the sights.

  
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Re: MVA sight question
Reply #1 - Feb 29th, 2016 at 1:03pm
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I have several of the MVA Vernier sights and have one of their Soule sights on order.  I think that the MVA are excellent sights for ease of adjustment and their quality is superb.  

They sell an adjustable eyepiece that has a wheel with a number of different-sized apertures.  This is a "Hadley" eyepiece, and I am pleased with my MVA Hadleys.  I have a sight with a Hadley eyepiece from another maker (not Baldwin) and both the MVA  sight and Hadley are superior to those of the other maker.

One nice feature of the MVA Hadley eyepiece is that there is a rubber O-ring inlet into the rear rim of the eyepiece to prevent the sight from marring the base, tang or stock when folded back.

I have no experience with Baldwin sights, so cannot comment on them, but I am so pleased with MVA's product that I probably won't try others unless they be on someone else's rifle.

As far as which height staff to choose, I'd give MVA a call and discuss that with them.  They'll take into consideration the distances that you want to reach, the length of your barrel, and perhaps other variables to suggest which staff height that would serve you best.
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Re: MVA sight question
Reply #2 - Feb 29th, 2016 at 2:28pm
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MVA Schuetzen Soule Tang will make it out to turkeys for BPCR( 425+ yds) using there low mount front globe on A Highwall. So for Schuetzen you have plenty of elevation in a very compact sight........
  
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Re: MVA sight question
Reply #3 - Feb 29th, 2016 at 4:45pm
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The marks on the MVA staff are simply inches.  On a typical single shot these will work out to be pretty close to a minute of angle per 0.01" of sight movement.

The range you can reach depends on a lot of things.  My .45-90 highwall could easily reach 1000 yards with an MVA midrange.   My Shiloh in .45-70 could not.

For 200-220 yard shooting their schuetzen model is quite nice.  I have one on a CPA and it is perfect for the job.  It's also short enough that it's safe to leave on the rifle folded down if I'm using a scope.

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Re: MVA sight question
Reply #4 - Mar 1st, 2016 at 10:08am
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For most older caliber rifles, a midrange tang sight will get you to 400 yds, if you don't go too high on your globe front sight. (not global) A longrange will get most old calibers to 1,000 yds. and beyond.
  
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Reply #5 - Mar 1st, 2016 at 10:54am
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Anyone have any experience with either sight?
Yes and each is top of the line vernier sight
Anyone know what distances these are made for?  In their write up about the sights, it doesn't tell anything other than, long range, mid range, etc.
Long range has a 5" staff ... Mid Range has 3" staff.  Unless you plan to shoot at 1000yds or more - buy the Mid Range
I like the adjustable eye piece on the Baldwin, but the MVA doesn't come with one.  Can an adjustable eyepiece be added to the MVA?
Yes - it's called a Hadley cup
I also noticed on the MVA sight it appears to be easier to read with the hash marks on a white background.  Whereas the Baldwin sights only have them made into the side of the sights.
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Re: MVA sight question
Reply #6 - Mar 1st, 2016 at 5:51pm
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Schuetzen staff will get you out past 200yd/m and works well for the intended purpose as well as .22BPCR, which is 200m. 
Mid-range is just what it says. Mid-range is out to 600yd.
Long-range is also just what it says. Long-range is out 1000yd. 
Obviously, or should be, that there is some latitude and each sight will get you some distance past the nominal max for each designated range.
MVA is the most popular tang sight in BPCR/BPTR, followed by Baldwin and Hoke. This is according to the statistics that the NRA keeps for the national matches. All are available with some form of Hadley eye-piece and all are excellent quality. Another sight of similar quality is Kelley. You cannot go wrong with any of them, though I prefer the Hoke.
  
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Reply #7 - Mar 1st, 2016 at 6:16pm
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Another sight of similar quality is Kelley.

Let's not leave out Lee Shaver or Distant Thunder verniers Wink
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And if one wants to buy a cheaper vernier ... 
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Re: MVA sight question
Reply #8 - Mar 2nd, 2016 at 3:57am
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"I also noticed on the MVA sight it appears to be easier to read with the hash marks on a white background.  Whereas the Baldwin sights only have them made into the side of the sights".

Steve will scribe the hash marks on either side of the staff, just ask him.
  
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Reply #9 - Mar 2nd, 2016 at 7:41am
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I am a big MVA fan. 

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Reply #10 - Mar 2nd, 2016 at 8:14am
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MVA, Baldwin, Hoke, Kelley, Distant Thunder & Shaver are all excellent quality sights. 

The advantage that the Hoke sight has "for me" is that it is faster to adjust in timed events (BPCR) as it has 5 equi-distant marks around the elevation and windage knobs that are 1/2 MOA adjustments. If my spotter tells me up 1 it is easy to turn the knob through 2 marks for 1MOA up (or down or left or right). Much faster and easier than trying to read the vernier scale. Would be easy enough to do the same on the other sights and if I shot with one of them I would have my jeweler's files out and be marking them with 1/2MOA scribe marks to speed my sight movements. Also the reason I've gone from the stock Creedmoor rear sight mount on my 28" MVA scope to the "Unertl syle" B5 rear mount. So much faster to read those large white scales then the small vernier scales. Don't need bifocals to make sight adjustments.
  
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Re: MVA sight question
Reply #11 - Mar 2nd, 2016 at 10:30am
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I respectfully disagree on the Shaver sights Glenn.  I've owned two of the deluxe ones. I don't think they are terrible or anything, but they are definitely a step down from the MVA sights.  I would never consider another one when for a little more I could buy an MVA.

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Re: MVA sight question
Reply #12 - Mar 2nd, 2016 at 10:32am
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I pretty well concur with jy3855 on the MVA tang.
I use the Baldwin front sight on all rifles but have added some inserts, my design, built by Distant Thunder.
All good stuff. You won't have any regrets.
  
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Re: MVA sight question
Reply #13 - Mar 2nd, 2016 at 11:02am
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I recently bought a canted front sight with some custom inserts from Jim at Distant Thunder.  The sights are great and Jim is a really good guy to do business with.

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Re: MVA sight question
Reply #14 - Mar 4th, 2016 at 1:52pm
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"One nice feature of the MVA Hadley eyepiece is that there is a rubber O-ring inlet into the rear rim of the eyepiece to prevent the sight from marring the base, tang or stock when folded back."


I have a Kelly Schuetzen that I like for the ease of adjustment and overall quality.  I cut a strip of 1 1/4" heat shrink tubing and shrunk it on the eye piece with a heat gun to solve the stock marring problem.  It doesn't look as nice as the brass but it works.  I did the same thing with the elevation knob to prevent scratching things up with the cleaning rod.

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