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Reply #15 - Feb 6th, 2016 at 8:23pm
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Hey Froggie, you can get all the high wall parts you need from MVA. I just got a complete double set trigger pistol grip lower tang with all the parts including the Helm lever.
  
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Reply #16 - Feb 6th, 2016 at 8:54pm
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"There is a Ballard website ? or is that a different Ballard ?"
So once upon a time there was Ballard Rifle and Cartridge Company, that existed in the land known as Cody, Wyoming. The company was sold to Bill Northrup who moved the company to Michigan and changed the name of the company to Ballard Arms. They made reproduction Ballards and High Walls. They also offered parts for both. The company is now OUT OF BUSINESS, which means no guns and no parts, nada.
  
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Reply #17 - Feb 6th, 2016 at 9:12pm
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TWOGUNS wrote on Feb 6th, 2016 at 8:18pm:
There is a Ballard website ? or is that a different Ballard ?

Yeah........ I wonder why the Ballard Arms website is still up. It isn't free, so someone must be paying the annual fee to keep it going. Do wonder why.

In addition to MVA, DZ Arms in OKC also offers any number of 1885 Win parts. 
  

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Reply #18 - Feb 6th, 2016 at 11:19pm
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Just because no one is paying for it does not mean it is taken down.  I took about 3 years for my business site to go away after I quit paying for it.  Grin
  

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Reply #19 - Feb 7th, 2016 at 12:44am
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Any one had their hands on the Ballard from Romano? (Their web site is temporarily down.)
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Reply #20 - Feb 7th, 2016 at 9:56am
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The Romano Ballard is the 1st model Kentucky Civil War version with a 30" 44/40 barrel and is intended for the N-SSA single shot category of arms. I don't think it is offered in any other variation. At $4000 it is a fairly high priced toy for a limited use. I got to handle one for a short time but I've never shot one. I'm currently restoring an original 1st mod KY Ballard and I'll shoot that one.
  
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Reply #21 - Feb 7th, 2016 at 10:43am
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If the Romano Ballard is based on the Kentucky Ballard, then it's most likely a Ball and Williams, or R Ball variation, which would have top and bottom tangs, and not the internal tang/through bolt of the other Ballards. Not sure if any of the parts would interchange with the most popular Marlin Ballard variation?
  

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Reply #22 - Feb 7th, 2016 at 10:51am
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Yes, the Romano Ballard is a copy of the Ball & Williams Ballard and it has upper and lower tangs. No parts are the same as the Marlin Ballard. I understand the frame and all parts are made from modern steel and aren't like the thin castings of the originals.
  
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Reply #23 - Feb 7th, 2016 at 11:41am
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If a B&W, then the Romano has the one piece breech. Neat.

As for "high priced toy for a limited use," it seems it will do what people want a rifle to do: shoot paper, steel, or deer. Compared to over $10k for a Hagn or many of the European singles for high power, modern cartridges, I can't say $4000 is "high priced." Yeah, a C. Sharps 1885 for half the price is perhaps a better bargain, but I'm glad he's offering the Ballard, even if I don't need one.
  

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Reply #24 - Feb 7th, 2016 at 3:55pm
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$4,000 isn't a cheap gun, but considering that's right where Ballard Arms was on theirs just before they closed their doors, it's not out of line for a small production firearm today. What choice does anyone have if they want a Ballard? Not like a number of other copies of other old single shot designs, where there are multiple makers to choose from.
  

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Reply #25 - Feb 7th, 2016 at 4:09pm
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Thanks ,i will refrain from going there now and fantasizing about some of their former rifles,''Another one bites the dust '' whos next ?.22Hepburn wrote on Feb 6th, 2016 at 8:54pm:
"There is a Ballard website ? or is that a different Ballard ?"
So once upon a time there was Ballard Rifle and Cartridge Company, that existed in the land known as Cody, Wyoming. The company was sold to Bill Northrup who moved the company to Michigan and changed the name of the company to Ballard Arms. They made reproduction Ballards and High Walls. They also offered parts for both. The company is now OUT OF BUSINESS, which means no guns and no parts, nada.

  
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Reply #26 - Feb 7th, 2016 at 4:29pm
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marlinguy wrote on Feb 7th, 2016 at 3:55pm:
$4,000 isn't a cheap gun, but considering that's right where Ballard Arms was on theirs just before they closed their doors, it's not out of line for a small production firearm today. What choice does anyone have if they want a Ballard? Not like a number of other copies of other old single shot designs, where there are multiple makers to choose from.

While you can walk out the door with either a C. Sharps Arms 1885 or 1874 or a Shiloh Sharps 1874 or 1877 with sights for just under $3K, it is a very plain-Jane model with very unfancy wood, no checkering, etc. The Cody Ballards were mostly all high-dollar rifles and had fancy wood, checkering and polished barrels, etc. You can easily run the cost of a C. Sharps or Shiloh Sharps rifle up to that level if that's what you want. The two Hepburn suppliers of today, C. Sharps and DZ Arms, both start their Hepburn rifles in the $4K range as they are all very nicely finished with nice wood. 
  

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Reply #27 - Feb 7th, 2016 at 8:38pm
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I checked the Ballard Arms website regularly. Before they went belly up , a plain jane #3  (plain wood, no checkering, etc) was $3800.00. Add in shipping and 10% excise tax and you're well over $4k. I believe a fancy 3f, with DST's would run you about $5k.
  
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Reply #28 - Feb 7th, 2016 at 10:58pm
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The receipt for my Schoyen style Cody Ballard was for $4600 in 2004. It has an extra heavy #4 weight round Badger barrel, extra grade schuetzen stocks, Schoyen Swiss buttplate, double set triggers, #6 ball and spur lever with filler. Sights were MVA Soule, and Baldwin globe, but not part of the order. They were sent to Cody, and a $30 additional charge to mount them on the gun.
  

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