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win1906 Ex Member	loading 32-40 remington hepburn Feb 2^nd, 2016 at 11:39pm	Print Post
	the 32-40 remington hepburn is a tapered case so i dont know if i can use a wad on top of the black powder.can i melt spg lube and pour it on top of the powder.i have taken alot of old cartridges apart and seems like they used to do it.any one have a good way of loading the 32-40 remington.


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Online deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12347 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: loading 32-40 remington hepburn Reply #1 - Feb 2^nd, 2016 at 11:49pm	Print Post
	Wad will work perfectly. Not sure .32 wads will fit. Might take a smaller wad. Joe.

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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2942 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: loading 32-40 remington hepburn Reply #2 - Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 8:10am	Print Post
	Do you have the "true" 32-40 Remington with the 2.25" case which is formed from 30-40 Gov't cases or the far more common 32-40 B&M (Ballard & Marlin, aka Winchester) which is based on the shorter 38-55 case? Either way, the 32-40 case does have some neck area (essentially straight). Just insure you load in enough BP to keep the wad in that section of the case. You will want a loaded case to have no air-gaps in it with BP. Swiss 3F is likely the best choice for the small case. A wad down tight on the BP (some small amount of compression is generally a good thing) and a newspaper wad on top of the fiber or poly wad (whichever you are using) to insure the wad does not stick to the base of the bullet. Insure you wipe any lube off the base of the bullet for the same reason before loading. It will take some testing to develop the most accurate load(s). Have fun!! I'll be about six months behind you with my 32-40 Remington Hepburn.
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beltfed Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1826 Location: Central Wi Joined: Dec 20^th, 2007	Re: loading 32-40 remington hepburn Reply #3 - Feb 3^rd, 2016 at 1:01pm	Print Post
	I have been working with the true 32-40 Rem Hep for some years now. My rifle is a Brg BPCR which was rebarreled (Mike Lewis) with a Lilja 8 twist barrel. I also have the Tight Neck Reamer that was used when this rifle was first rebarreled for Dan Theodore. Brass is formed from 303 Brit brass in one sizing with my C-H 32-40 Rem Hep F.L size die.(the 303 brass works perfectly because it already has more body taper, as compared to 30-40K brass).Trim to length, fire form with 0.308dia bullets and light charge. Then the brass must be outside neck turned just enough to clean it up/concentric and enough neck clearance for 0.309 bullet dia. Have not yet shot it much yet with BP, but it shoots lights out with the Other Powder. Sub minute of angle with the Lyman 311299 cast in my usual 9+1 ww/lino alloy. I use it with MTL lube, No gas Check. 0.060 LDPE wad . 15.5 IMR 4227 . Shot a 377/400 from the bench at my first real Schuetzen match last summer. Important re wad use. For the lighter smokeless loads especially, As said above, must keep the wad at the base of the bullet. I have used a 3/16 (0.3125) x 0.060" LDPE wad pushed down with the bullet as it is seated.(Needed neck flare to get them started, then "kiss down" the flare after bullet seating just enough to snug slip fit into the chamber neck BUT, the 3/16" wad is Really Tight in this true 30 cal neck. I Need to make up a 0.310 wad punch..... The 311299 bullets are nose sized/0.301" so as to push back the front band and enable seating it out enough so as to keep that 0.060 wad in the neck. With a case FULL of BP, I suggest do not do very much compression. Just full plus 0.050" compression. Going forward, I have now picked up a couple of heavy bullet molds for BP work; NOE 311-247gr, LYm 308281 stop ring at 230gr, Lee 311 230 gr. Also for working with my 300 BO Rimmed in a pending project. This is a fun gun. Happens the case capacity is very close to the 30-30 WCF, so plenty of data out there for CB use. beltfed/arnie


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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2942 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: loading 32-40 remington hepburn Reply #4 - Feb 4^th, 2016 at 7:42am	Print Post
	Arnie - that's good info. My original 32-40 Hepburn barrel was lined down to .22 so doesn't have enough metal to have it bored & rifled to 30cal or larger (probably could get away with 25cal). Guess I could go with a 30cal liner and do what you are doing or have it bored & rifled to 32cal. But, that would add an additional $300 to all ready expensive liner, so will stay with the 14" twist TJ's liner. As the barrel is only marked 32-40 and is a later serial number rifle, am guessing it is the 32-40 B&M (Winchester) rather than the 32-40 Rem. Plus, Starline sells new 38-55 brass and 303 Brit is getting difficult to find.

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beltfed Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1826 Location: Central Wi Joined: Dec 20^th, 2007	Re: loading 32-40 remington hepburn Reply #5 - Feb 4^th, 2016 at 8:51am	Print Post
	Glenn, So you actually have a Rem Hep rifle that was probably a 32-40 BW? You are probably right in just going back to that ctg- brass much easier to get, etc. beltfed/arnie


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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2942 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: loading 32-40 remington hepburn Reply #6 - Feb 5^th, 2016 at 5:19pm	Print Post
	beltfed wrote on Feb 4^th, 2016 at 8:51am: Glenn, So you actually have a Rem Hep rifle that was probably a 32-40 BW? beltfed/arnie Yes. Original Hepburn with a 28" full octagon barrel and DST. Think the barrel would be considered a #3 profile as it is ~0.998" across the flats at the breech and 0.827" at the muzzle. What is listed as a #2 in Rowe's book is a fair bit smaller. Mine is in the 7600 serial number range and there are quite a few 32-40 B&M chamberings in the 7000-8000 serial number range in the book. The surprising part is that there are also a few 32-40 Rem in the late 7000-9000 range. My barrel is marked 32.40 and the barrel is correct to the action. Another surprise is the 10,326 assembly number stamped on the barrel. They must have mixed in some rifles other then just the Hepburn in their assembly numbering scheme.
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