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John Rigby Full Member Offline Posts: 211 Location: Midwest Joined: Nov 8^th, 2005	Re: Ballard #3 Gallery rifle Reply #15 - Jan 20^th, 2016 at 8:21pm	Print Post
	I have both Nimschke and Ulrich and it appears to be factory engraved. I love that rifle.

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.22Hepburn Oldtimer Offline Posts: 803 Location: Pennsylvania Joined: Feb 18^th, 2008	Re: Ballard #3 Gallery rifle Reply #16 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:49am	Print Post
	I'm curious - why is this rifle being called a "#3 Gallery rifle" ?


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Online Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16111 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Ballard #3 Gallery rifle Reply #17 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 11:11am	Print Post
	.22Hepburn wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 7:49am: I'm curious - why is this rifle being called a "#3 Gallery rifle" ? Well I suppose because of the caliber, and #3 style extractor. In fact it may well have started life as a special order engraved #3 Gallery. It has the straight grip receiver of a #3, caliber of a #3, and extractor of a #3. So hard to say it didn't begin life as a #3? Ballard rifles seem to be more often customized than any other single shot rifle I've seen. But often Marlin was so agreeable to customer's wants, that even factory customs defy a certain model number. It's sometimes nearly impossible to classify a factory Ballard by anything more than it's caliber, and not add "special order" to the classification. If only the caliber and receiver matches a certain model number, then is it a different model? I purchased what I call a #2 Ballard last year. I based this model designation on the cast receiver, and the .32 Long chambering. But nothing else matches a #2 Ballard. It looks like a deluxe nickeled version of a Union Hill. All numbers matching. So what else could it be? (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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rustyrelx Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 474 Location: Wallace Idaho Joined: Oct 9^th, 2007	Re: Ballard #3 Gallery rifle Reply #18 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 1:02pm	Print Post
	Nice rifle.. Look at all the numbers on the rifle to validate authenticity. Action to me looks like a 3F with a#6 stock. But that could be original as anything could be special ordered. Ballards were not made in .22 long rifle. Only .22 long and .22 short. If a long rifle fits into the chamber than in all probability its in .22 long. Longs will shoot with accurate but the long rifle is not so accurate as the weights of projectile is way different. That is if the bore is original Don.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Online Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16111 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Ballard #3 Gallery rifle Reply #19 - Jan 21^st, 2016 at 5:24pm	Print Post
	rustyrelx wrote on Jan 21^st, 2016 at 1:02pm: Nice rifle.. Look at all the numbers on the rifle to validate authenticity. Action to me looks like a 3F with a#6 stock. But that could be original as anything could be special ordered. Ballards were not made in .22 long rifle. Only .22 long and .22 short. If a long rifle fits into the chamber than in all probability its in .22 long. Longs will shoot with accurate but the long rifle is not so accurate as the weights of projectile is way different. That is if the bore is original Don. Don, a 3f is a pistol gripped receiver; and this looks like a straight grip 3 to me?

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rustyrelx Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 474 Location: Wallace Idaho Joined: Oct 9^th, 2007	Re: Ballard #3 Gallery rifle Reply #20 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 1:18pm	Print Post
	Vall: I looked at it several times and it looks like a pistol grip frame to me. That would also account for the shape of the buttstock being heavy. Picture 1 looks like a straight grip but picture 2 looks like a pistol grip. I have had 3 each 3F's. Just speculating as I have not seen it in person. Don


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Crown-C Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 494 Location: St. Marys Kansas Joined: Apr 6^th, 2009	Re: Ballard #3 Gallery rifle Reply #21 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 4:48pm	Print Post
	Might as well chime in on this very nice Ballard. I think it is a straight grip frame. Photo 2 does resemble a pistol grip, but when I enlarged the photo the part at the rear bottom is wood and that is what makes it look like its curved. I believe it is an older custom job with a #6 style stock and with it in .22 LR it is either relined or a new barrel. I have had Dave Crossno make several of this style stocks for me on straight grip frames. He has an engraved straight grip frame he is building now. I sure would not pass on it either, I like it! Richard

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bohemianway Oldtimer Offline Posts: 646 Location: Andover, MN Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: Ballard #3 Gallery rifle Reply #22 - Jan 24^th, 2016 at 7:16pm	Print Post
	In the last picture of the open breech it appears to be relined.


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Bonner Full Member Offline Posts: 135 Location: middle georgia Joined: Mar 2^nd, 2015	Re: Ballard #3 Gallery rifle Reply #23 - Jan 26^th, 2016 at 7:04pm	Print Post
	Bohemianway, Here is a shot of the end of the barrel. You can see it has been relined, the # on the action is 5952. the bottom of the hand guard is more flat that round and will make it more bench friendly .


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Online Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16111 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Ballard #3 Gallery rifle Reply #24 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 11:43am	Print Post
	Thanks for the up close pictures! Definitely a straight grip frame.

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rustyrelx Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 474 Location: Wallace Idaho Joined: Oct 9^th, 2007	Re: Ballard #3 Gallery rifle Reply #25 - Jan 27^th, 2016 at 1:36pm	Print Post
	Wasn't the first time my eyes have deceived me. But a beautiful rifle. Don


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