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Re: .357 Maximum
Reply #30 - Jan 28th, 2020 at 10:53pm
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I do NOT respect Bob Milek's loads for the 357 Herrett.
A friend was shooting his T/C contender Super 14 in this caliber
with Milek's Published load of 4227 under a 158 gr jacketed HP bullet.  
This load actually blew the core out of the bullet and left jacket in the bore. After removing the jacket from bore, He ( I think foolishly) shot another one and same thing. Left jacket in bore.
Load was definitely too hot for those pistol bullets.
And, I think the pistol bullets are a bad choice for the 357 Herrett unless you go up to heavier bullets, say 180-200gr and slower powder
( I refuse to say how much 4227 Milek published)
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Reply #31 - Jan 29th, 2020 at 8:56am
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I tend to agree with beltfed since some of the early data was on the hot side and some more than just hot. I used H-4198 and Hornady 200 grain 358's in either spire or RN for my 10" Contender in 357 Herrett. It was running near 1600 fps and was a handfull to shoot. I shot some in the BSA Cadet but ended up toning it down some. Still an underappreciated cartridge I think. ratseye
  
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Reply #32 - Jan 31st, 2020 at 10:01am
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Haven't done any annealing yet. Don't load that hot that brass gets worked hard. 
I'm a fan of Trail Boss and find it offers quite a range of 'soft loads' for a variety of calibers.
  
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Reply #33 - Jan 31st, 2020 at 5:33pm
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I have been shooting a 300 BO Rimmed since the late 90s. I had Virgin Valley make a barrel on a Shilen blank 1/10 twist for contender. This is a 12" bbl set up for handgun Sillhouette. Doing it over I would consider a 1/12 twist. The barrel shoots RCBS 165gr bullets at near max charge accurately.

I had 2 extractors made so I can shoot either rimmed and rimmless cases

Starline has 357 Max brass
  
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Reply #34 - Feb 2nd, 2020 at 9:04pm
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Has anyone used the "pointed" bullets for the .350 Legend in the Max? Seems like they should work well for lighter bullets.

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Reply #35 - Feb 4th, 2020 at 11:52am
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I've shot the Hornady 200 grain FTX in my 357 Herrett BSA Cadet with excellent accuracy. Maybe slightly better than their Spire Point Interlock. Have not used it on game yet but planning a pig hunt soon. ratseye
  
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Reply #36 - Feb 4th, 2020 at 10:26pm
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I'll mention my own experience with JHP pistol bullets during my short-lived experiments with the .357 Max in a Contender.  Using loads suggested by that Bellm feller.   

Set up on the club rifle range, with a target at 25 yards to rough in the sight adjustment.   All OK, looked like it might be pretty accurate, even.   Moved to a 100 yard target.  NO hits.  It finally dawned on me that the bullets were flying to pieces somewhere beyond 25 yards.  A few weeks later I backed the load off to .357 Magnum pressures, and they did stay together, but heck, I coulda just left the barrel as a .357 Magnum to do that.    

Stronger bullets didn't do that, but I pretty soon realized that a Gen 1 Contender just isn't up to that kind of duty.  I put the Hornet barrel back on it, and retired it to the back of the safe. 

  

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Reply #37 - Feb 6th, 2020 at 8:34am
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nope
if it cracks, I pitch it into the recycle bucket
  
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Reply #38 - Feb 13th, 2020 at 7:38pm
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No,I don't anneal any brass.
Fire hazard and too much combustibles
Got a lot of brass
Only one extinguisher, tho
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Re: .357 Maximum
Reply #39 - Feb 14th, 2020 at 12:10pm
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I heard that the 350 Legend is actually .355
  
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Reply #40 - Feb 20th, 2020 at 5:16pm
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Oh, it's .355 alright!
Kinda disappointing that ya gotta use bullets meant for a 9
USCRA,
If the bullets are flying apart, use better bullets.
It ain't the barrel!
I push 'em hard with the 35 cal. contender, 358x444 Imp
  
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Reply #41 - Feb 23rd, 2020 at 12:26am
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built a 357Max on a BSA martini last summer ,19 1/2 barrel and is a bit heavy but does shoot nice with 180 rem and 19 gr IMR 4227
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Re: .357 Maximum on a martini
Reply #42 - Apr 9th, 2020 at 4:10pm
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That is one tight package!
I'll bet it's great to hunt with.
I love carrying a small rifle that shoots a big bullet.
That Rem max is a nice round.
Thanks for sharing.
  
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Re: .357 Maximum
Reply #43 - Apr 11th, 2020 at 2:43pm
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Now I know what I could do with the hoch mold I got years back. I ordered a .359 mold for a 357 and he sent me a 355-260. I had won a certificate for it so did not complain, besides had a 260 grain Brooks that my rifle really liked so not a pressing problem. The 350 legend is legal in Iowa for deer.
  
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Re: .357 Maximum
Reply #44 - May 21st, 2020 at 8:10am
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Wink        6x223 with special needs
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) Got an M1 look
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