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beltfed Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1759 Location: Central Wi Joined: Dec 20^th, 2007	Re: .357 Maximum Reply #30 - Jan 28^th, 2020 at 10:53pm	Print Post
	I do NOT respect Bob Milek's loads for the 357 Herrett. A friend was shooting his T/C contender Super 14 in this caliber with Milek's Published load of 4227 under a 158 gr jacketed HP bullet. This load actually blew the core out of the bullet and left jacket in the bore. After removing the jacket from bore, He ( I think foolishly) shot another one and same thing. Left jacket in bore. Load was definitely too hot for those pistol bullets. And, I think the pistol bullets are a bad choice for the 357 Herrett unless you go up to heavier bullets, say 180-200gr and slower powder ( I refuse to say how much 4227 Milek published) beltfed/arnie
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ratseye Full Member Offline Posts: 202 Location: Eastern, PA Joined: Feb 28^th, 2017	Re: .357 Maximum Reply #31 - Jan 29^th, 2020 at 8:56am	Print Post
	I tend to agree with beltfed since some of the early data was on the hot side and some more than just hot. I used H-4198 and Hornady 200 grain 358's in either spire or RN for my 10" Contender in 357 Herrett. It was running near 1600 fps and was a handfull to shoot. I shot some in the BSA Cadet but ended up toning it down some. Still an underappreciated cartridge I think. ratseye


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gemihur Participating Member Offline Posts: 24 Joined: Jan 11^th, 2014	Re: .357 Maximum Reply #32 - Jan 31^st, 2020 at 10:01am	Print Post
	Haven't done any annealing yet. Don't load that hot that brass gets worked hard. I'm a fan of Trail Boss and find it offers quite a range of 'soft loads' for a variety of calibers.


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Gard72977 Full Member Offline Posts: 201 Location: Tupelo MS Joined: Dec 18^th, 2016	Re: .357 Maximum Reply #33 - Jan 31^st, 2020 at 5:33pm	Print Post
	I have been shooting a 300 BO Rimmed since the late 90s. I had Virgin Valley make a barrel on a Shilen blank 1/10 twist for contender. This is a 12" bbl set up for handgun Sillhouette. Doing it over I would consider a 1/12 twist. The barrel shoots RCBS 165gr bullets at near max charge accurately. I had 2 extractors made so I can shoot either rimmed and rimmless cases Starline has 357 Max brass


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Dino in Reno 2 Junior Member Offline Posts: 56 Joined: Sep 2^nd, 2013	Re: .357 Maximum Reply #34 - Feb 2^nd, 2020 at 9:04pm	Print Post
	Has anyone used the "pointed" bullets for the .350 Legend in the Max? Seems like they should work well for lighter bullets. Dino in Reno


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ratseye Full Member Offline Posts: 202 Location: Eastern, PA Joined: Feb 28^th, 2017	Re: .357 Maximum Reply #35 - Feb 4^th, 2020 at 11:52am	Print Post
	I've shot the Hornady 200 grain FTX in my 357 Herrett BSA Cadet with excellent accuracy. Maybe slightly better than their Spire Point Interlock. Have not used it on game yet but planning a pig hunt soon. ratseye


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: .357 Maximum Reply #36 - Feb 4^th, 2020 at 10:26pm	Print Post
	I'll mention my own experience with JHP pistol bullets during my short-lived experiments with the .357 Max in a Contender. Using loads suggested by that Bellm feller. Set up on the club rifle range, with a target at 25 yards to rough in the sight adjustment. All OK, looked like it might be pretty accurate, even. Moved to a 100 yard target. NO hits. It finally dawned on me that the bullets were flying to pieces somewhere beyond 25 yards. A few weeks later I backed the load off to .357 Magnum pressures, and they did stay together, but heck, I coulda just left the barrel as a .357 Magnum to do that. Stronger bullets didn't do that, but I pretty soon realized that a Gen 1 Contender just isn't up to that kind of duty. I put the Hornet barrel back on it, and retired it to the back of the safe.

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gemihur Participating Member Offline Posts: 24 Joined: Jan 11^th, 2014	Re: .357 Maximum Reply #37 - Feb 6^th, 2020 at 8:34am	Print Post
	nope if it cracks, I pitch it into the recycle bucket


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gemihur Participating Member Offline Posts: 24 Joined: Jan 11^th, 2014	Re: .357 Maximum Reply #38 - Feb 13^th, 2020 at 7:38pm	Print Post
	No,I don't anneal any brass. Fire hazard and too much combustibles Got a lot of brass Only one extinguisher, tho Thanks


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bnice Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1861 Location: Iowa Joined: Nov 30^th, 2006	Re: .357 Maximum Reply #39 - Feb 14^th, 2020 at 12:10pm	Print Post
	I heard that the 350 Legend is actually .355


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gemihur Participating Member Offline Posts: 24 Joined: Jan 11^th, 2014	Re: .357 Maximum Reply #40 - Feb 20^th, 2020 at 5:16pm	Print Post
	Oh, it's .355 alright! Kinda disappointing that ya gotta use bullets meant for a 9 USCRA, If the bullets are flying apart, use better bullets. It ain't the barrel! I push 'em hard with the 35 cal. contender, 358x444 Imp


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blackbahart Newbie Offline Posts: 7 Joined: Feb 26^th, 2018	Re: .357 Maximum Reply #41 - Feb 23^rd, 2020 at 12:26am	Print Post
	built a 357Max on a BSA martini last summer ,19 1/2 barrel and is a bit heavy but does shoot nice with 180 rem and 19 gr IMR 4227
	« Last Edit: Feb 25^th, 2020 at 12:23am by blackbahart »

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gemihur Participating Member Offline Posts: 24 Joined: Jan 11^th, 2014	Re: .357 Maximum on a martini Reply #42 - Apr 9^th, 2020 at 4:10pm	Print Post
	That is one tight package! I'll bet it's great to hunt with. I love carrying a small rifle that shoots a big bullet. That Rem max is a nice round. Thanks for sharing.


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bnice Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1861 Location: Iowa Joined: Nov 30^th, 2006	Re: .357 Maximum Reply #43 - Apr 11^th, 2020 at 2:43pm	Print Post
	Now I know what I could do with the hoch mold I got years back. I ordered a .359 mold for a 357 and he sent me a 355-260. I had won a certificate for it so did not complain, besides had a 260 grain Brooks that my rifle really liked so not a pressing problem. The 350 legend is legal in Iowa for deer.


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gemihur Participating Member Offline Posts: 24 Joined: Jan 11^th, 2014	Re: .357 Maximum Reply #44 - May 21^st, 2020 at 8:10am	Print Post
	6x223 with special needs (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Got an M1 look
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