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Reply #15 - Dec 14th, 2015 at 8:06am
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I have to agree with alphawolf on building your own fire arm. There is nothing more satisfying, but I must also add aggravating as well. Best of luck with your endeavor.
  
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Reply #16 - Dec 21st, 2015 at 4:26pm
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Hi new member here, first post in fact, so please bear with me until I get acquainted with the site, I do recognize a few folks here however. 

Anyway I chose this topic for a first post because it is my main interest, building and shooting Highwalls! I have built two from scratch, a full size heavy barrel example in 45-90 and a scaled down much smaller version in 22 Magnum, I am currently about 70% or so finished with my third attempt which is another full size version but lighter. 

These were built from 4140HT stock using photos, measurements and notes taken from an original but I made several internal modifications to eliminate the external screw heads and sear pin ends on the receiver sides. I love these Single Shot rifles and look forward to spending some time here hopefully sharing ides!
  
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Reply #17 - Dec 21st, 2015 at 5:16pm
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I think I speak for everyone else here when I say, "Welcome to the forum," and we would love to see some pics of all of those.
  
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Reply #18 - Dec 21st, 2015 at 6:25pm
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My first attempt was the 45-90 and I thought I would make a few style changes but I wasn't very impressed with the result so I won't do that again! The "Baby Highwall" is much more true to the original design although I did use the same mods that hides the lower tang/trigger group attaching screws and has the sear mounted on a carrier held in slots similar to the lower tang, these mods eliminate the screw heads and sear pin ends from appearing on the receiver sides.

I'm not much of a photographer but maybe the pics will come out ok,

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Both of these rifles were built on a 14x40 lathe using a milling attachment and a few other shop made accessories to do various tasks and a great deal of the receiver contouring was done using files and stones. All in all an extremely fun project and I am anxious to see how the third one tuns out, I learned a lot on these two and I hope to be able to refine the details on this current project.
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Reply #19 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 1:55am
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Radkins,
I take my hat off to you sir, two very nice looking rifles. There are a few changes (improvements) and a couple of curves omitted on one where the stock meets the action, but all in all very nice work, especially as you have handicapped yourself by not having a proper milling machine. You should be proud of yourself.   Cheesy
There is an unwritten rule on this Forum that if you build an action, you photograph your work as you go along and keep the members updated weekly if not more often. This encourages others to do the same. Given the cost of rifle actions these days scratch building is cost effective if you have the machine tools to start with. As we say here in England, "Well done that man". Cool

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Reply #20 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 1:59am
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Welcome aboard and awesome work Radkins!
  

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Reply #21 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 10:03am
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I will second that "well done that man"
  
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Reply #22 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 10:29am
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Hi Radkins;
Yes, I've admired your work on a couple other forums - very nicely done.
I'm working on one as well - haven't posted pictures because its such an enormous amount of work and so time consuming, I didn't know if I'd ever finish it.
If you wouldn't mind sharing, I'd be interested to see the mods you did to hide the screw / pin holes. Too late for my current one as I've already drilled my holes and have my lower tang mostly completed. But maybe I'll do another someday - after I recover from this one.  Lips Sealed
  
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Reply #23 - Dec 22nd, 2015 at 12:30pm
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Radkins,
Welcome to the Forum and very nice work.
Admire your perseverance on two issues: using your limited tools and using 4140 HT steel. Both seem to work very well.
Glad to see someone else cannot resist making "improvements".
Great rifles and keep us informed on your projects and progress.
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Reply #24 - Dec 23rd, 2015 at 10:24am
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cuslog wrote on Dec 22nd, 2015 at 10:29am:
I'm working on one as well - haven't posted pictures because its such an enormous amount of work and so time consuming, I didn't know if I'd ever finish it.
If you wouldn't mind sharing, I'd be interested to see the mods you did to hide the screw / pin holes. Too late for my current one as I've already drilled my holes and have my lower tang mostly completed. But maybe I'll do another someday - after I recover from this one.  Lips Sealed




I know what you mean about the doubts early on but hang in there!

I wish I had of taken pictures of the progress but I neglected to do that, I need to disassemble the small rifle to make a minor adjustment to the trigger pull anyway so I will try to get up some pics of the mods I made, probably should start a new thread however so I will try and do that in the next day or so.



What are the details on your build, do you have a thread started on it? What caliber? I would be VERY interested in seeing this project!
  
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Reply #25 - Dec 23rd, 2015 at 6:54pm
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New guy, here, so this might be a dumb question.
I'm ordering a set of plans for the Winchester Single shot from the archives, I'm a machinist in a small shop, and need something to really challenge me, and this should do it!!

I have been cruising the site, and I see that the breech block angle through the receiver is 5 deg., as I've seen on some side view drawings...

What I can't seem to get my head around is, doesn't the face of the block need to be 90 deg. to the bore/base of the case???

I'm missing something, I think.....
  
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Reply #26 - Dec 23rd, 2015 at 7:41pm
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Rick, the upper front face of the block is angled from the rest of the shape to be square to the bore. It makes a pretty clever item when you figure out how much works off of the block. If you can get somebody with an original to break it down (it only takes a few minutes to take down and replace), you'll be better off for the look. Have fun and let us see how it goes.
  
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Reply #27 - Dec 23rd, 2015 at 7:41pm
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Reply #28 - Dec 23rd, 2015 at 7:59pm
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Calledflyer and Radkins, thanks so much, I knew that I was getting ahead of myself....

Also, the photo makes it really clear! That was nice of you to post it! 

I truly wish I knew someone with a rifle that I could examine, but I don't, so drawings/plans, and with the help of you folks here will work fine.

Thanks again!!

I used to belong to ASSRA in the late '80's and enjoyed the magazines, still have them somewhere in a box, along with all my Home Shop Machinists mags, too.

I also wish that I had the slotter for the Bridgeport where I used to work, we used it to square up the rear of the one piece trigger guards/bottom metal we made for bolt action rifles, and would now be most handy...
  
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Reply #29 - Dec 24th, 2015 at 2:28am
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Rick4070,
You don't need a slotter for your Bridgeport, the squaring off of breechblock mortise can easily be done using the ordinary head of your machine. You will have to make a suitable slotting tool. This is then fitted into a collet on your mill spindle. Lock the spindle in place and cut the corner square 2-3 thou' at a time by just raising the table knee, or on other machines by lowering the machine head as you would in a drilling machine with the handles on the side of the tool head.
Look through these 2 URL's, you will find such tools being used in the way I describe. For a one off it's fine, for mass production you will need a proper slotting machine if you can find one these days.
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There's nothing difficult here, just take your time.  A similar tool is great for cutting extractor slots.

Harry
  
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