While not a CPA, just did an ammo test with my Shilen rachet-rifled DZ Hepburn .22LR barrel and it would shoot terrific groups (<2") at 200yd when I did my part with Midas+, Wolf Match Extra & Norma Match ammo. The other ammo tested was at least 4" and a couple were 8+ inches. As several have stated, the Shilen is a fine barrel.

SSShooter wrote on Nov 13^th, 2015 at 10:05am:


From all I have read on here the Shilen barrel seems the way to go.  Thanks for the advice.

My CPA's have all had Douglas barrels. Including two .22 Rimfires. Here is my advice take it for what it cost.

Let CPA put on what he has in stock, it's probably going to be a Douglas may be something else. Paul has a good idea of what has been working well. I believe he has been recommending Shillens lately. My last Rimfire barrel was 1996 so he may have changed his opinion.

Don't get hung up on the chamber let CPA chamber it unless you have direct knowledge something is better.  By direct I mean advice from someone who has has a match winning proven record with  a particular set up. Between Paul and Gail Shuttleworth  personaly a lot of matches have been won and they are in direct contact with rifles built and how they perform. I have never gone wrong taking advice from CPA. 

Give you a good example of possible chamber problems, my brand new Anschutz 1712 would not reliably extract RWS R 50. Small bore Silhouette rife won't extract you are out of the match. Back to Anschutz's German transplant gunsmith said the "match chamber" shot smaller groups admitted they don't extract well. It's a offhand rifle for crying out loud. If it won't shoot the course of fire it's about useless. He polished it out then it extracted fine. Set up for pure bench rest is different than offhand guns.

If you want the RF gun to match your CF barrel weight, and I think thats important offhand rifle, and feel it has to have more taper outside, to compensate for the smaller Hole. CPA will set it up to match if you ask for it.

No good reason to switch forearms, lot of trouble, good chance of stripping the very small screws on and off a lot and if the tapers are different it's not going to fit anyway.

Boats

George considering you are going 25 & 22 sounds right.  My two switch outfits are 32-22 and 38-22  the 38 is a # 4 22 # 3 barrel  lot of of difference if they had the same taper.

On the Anschutz new 1712s have what seems to me a weak extraction system and high accuracy expectations . Recipe for fail to extract. My old 54 Super Match never failed. No telling how many rounds through it. 

CPA rim fire extractor is a good one and will probably pull cases out of a tight chamber.

Boats

Are guys you able to clean CPAs from the breech?

I had an original 44 1/2.  The hammer was too high to clean from the rear.  I had a hammer that a fellow hammered a little flatter to solve that problem.  Paul must have modified it at some point.  Seems like I remember them being exactly like the originals when they first came out.

That is interesting that you can clean from the breech with both. Maybe Stevens had more than one original hammer spur profile back in the day?

H?mm?mmm.  That one I had, there was absolutely no way to get a rod in from the back with the original hammer .