ASSRA Forum › General › Gunsmithing Single Shot Rifles › How? install 44 1/2 stock bolt
(Moderator Group: Moderator)
‹ Previous Topic | Next Topic ›
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1 Send TopicPrint
Hot Topic (More than 10 Replies) How? install 44 1/2 stock bolt (Read 4365 times)
bohemianway
Oldtimer
*****
Offline



Posts: 648
Location: Andover, MN
Joined: Apr 16th, 2004
How? install 44 1/2 stock bolt
Sep 27th, 2015 at 1:15pm
Print Post  
I have been shooting my Stevens 44 1/2 straight grip DST for years and the stock keeps working loose. It is time to do the through bolt modification but I cannot find the references. I would rather not modify the tangs if possible. By the way the action and DSTs are the only original parts on the gun so bedding, drilling wood, etc are ok. I just want to get it tight.

Thank you,
Charles
  
Back to top
GTalk  
IP Logged
 
marlinguy
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline


Ballards may be weaker,
but they sure are neater!

Posts: 16379
Location: Oregon
Joined: Feb 2nd, 2009
Re: How? install 44 1/2 stock bolt
Reply #1 - Sep 27th, 2015 at 1:41pm
Print Post  
Modifying the stock will be mandatory, but the tangs don't get modified. Make up a block that fits between the tangs nicely, and is slightly narrower than the tangs. Then mark the top and bottom holes on the block. Make up, or purchase machine screws that go through the tangs, and thread the block to accept the screws.
Now comes the tough part. Drilling the stock to accept a through bolt, and not going off center in any direction! Once you've got a small hole drilled, you can make up a punch to slip through the hole, and make the mark on your block. Of course your stock needs to be relieved to clear the block first! Mark the block, and D&T to accept the through bolt. Countersink the stock to recess the through bolt head, and also accept a bushing for the head to pull down against. Drill the hole out to accept the through bolt size also. Lots of stock work, but the work for the tangs is the easy part!
You could put non hardening Loctite on the stock screws first, and see if that keeps them from loosening up. I've also carved up small slivers of wood and drop them in the stock screw holes, to tighten up the wood screws, and hold them better.
  
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
ron
Oldtimer
*****
Offline



Posts: 576
Location: Augusta Maine
Joined: Nov 15th, 2009
Re: How? install 44 1/2 stock bolt
Reply #2 - Sep 27th, 2015 at 1:52pm
Print Post  
What I have done in the past many times is to drill the screw holes to a larger size for a wooden dowel and Epoxy the dowels into the holes . When the Epoxy is set make sure that the dowels are flush, slip on the stock, then using the proper size drill for the screw hole, or use a transfer punch to spot the holes. SPOT THE HOLE THEN USING THE PROPER SIZE FOR THE SCREW DRILL ONLY ONE HONE AT A TIME. ASSEMBLE THE RECEIVER TO THE STOCK AND SPOT AND DRILL THE SECOND. I start with the top first, then the bottom hole second.   


ron
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
JLouis
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 10625
Joined: Apr 8th, 2009
Re: How? install 44 1/2 stock bolt
Reply #3 - Sep 27th, 2015 at 7:03pm
Print Post  
Charles there is no need to go through all of that work, what you need are straight shanked course thread screws to replace the tapered cabinet type screws that have a tendency to back out and your problem will be solved. Steve Durren had a nice article showing how to make them out of lag screws / bolts in one of the past ASSRA Journals. I had the same problem as yourself and since the change several years back they have yet to come loose to date. I actualy found two butt plate screws of the correct design on an old Win. Model 69 that didn't require any modification and I simply swapped them out.

JLouis
  
" It Is Better To Now Have Been A Has Been Than A Never Was Or A Wanna Be "
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
bohemianway
Oldtimer
*****
Offline



Posts: 648
Location: Andover, MN
Joined: Apr 16th, 2004
Re: How? install 44 1/2 stock bolt
Reply #4 - Sep 28th, 2015 at 9:35am
Print Post  
The problem runs deeper than the screws in that the front of the stock is not a tight fit to the action either. That is why I mentioned "bedding". I will try bedding it to take up the slack and redoing the screw holes. Wish me luck.

Thank you,
Charles
  
Back to top
GTalk  
IP Logged
 
marlinguy
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline


Ballards may be weaker,
but they sure are neater!

Posts: 16379
Location: Oregon
Joined: Feb 2nd, 2009
Re: How? install 44 1/2 stock bolt
Reply #5 - Sep 28th, 2015 at 9:48am
Print Post  
Yes, that will most likely stop the loosening by simply bedding the stock. Removing any gaps will help support the stock, and eliminate the movement that's working them loose. Adding the sliver of wood to the holes will also help after the stock is bedded.
  
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
John Boy
Ex Member


Re: How? install 44 1/2 stock bolt
Reply #6 - Sep 28th, 2015 at 10:21am
Print Post  
Quote:
... and the stock keeps working loose.

Charles, call CPA.  They have thicker diameter screws for the 44 1/2's that holds the stock in place better
Phone: 1 (570) 828-1669
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
bohemianway
Oldtimer
*****
Offline



Posts: 648
Location: Andover, MN
Joined: Apr 16th, 2004
Re: How? install 44 1/2 stock bolt
Reply #7 - Sep 28th, 2015 at 1:21pm
Print Post  
Last question: What do I use for bedding? In a past life I used acra-glass or micro-bed? What is the current flavor of the day?

Thank you,
Charles
  
Back to top
GTalk  
IP Logged
 
marlinguy
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline


Ballards may be weaker,
but they sure are neater!

Posts: 16379
Location: Oregon
Joined: Feb 2nd, 2009
Re: How? install 44 1/2 stock bolt
Reply #8 - Sep 28th, 2015 at 1:25pm
Print Post  
Acraglass gel still works well. Can't find Micro-Bed anywhere, and I loved that stuff! I recently purchased a Miles Gilbert stock bedding kit, and liked it. But only drawback was the two part epoxy was a gel hardener, but liquid resin. It came with fiberglass flocking to mix in and make it thicker. Worked well, but liked both parts being a gel better.
  
(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links)
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
JLouis
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline



Posts: 10625
Joined: Apr 8th, 2009
Re: How? install 44 1/2 stock bolt
Reply #9 - Sep 28th, 2015 at 10:27pm
Print Post  
Pro-Bed 2000 from Score High Gunsmithing is an excellent product and it comes highly recommended. I picked up some a year ago and was extremely happy with the results and the ease of use and I too was a MicroBed fan.

JLouis
  
" It Is Better To Now Have Been A Has Been Than A Never Was Or A Wanna Be "
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
JerryH
Frequent Elocutionist
*****
Offline


ASSRA Member #10876

Posts: 1259
Location: Easton, CA
Joined: Nov 9th, 2014
Re: How? install 44 1/2 stock bolt
Reply #10 - Sep 29th, 2015 at 12:14am
Print Post  
No matter what you use to bed your stock, always check your screws before the match. I do. Usually don't find anything loose, but now and then I get a slight "tick" when checking. Eliminate all the variables you can.

JerryH
  
I'm not a complete idiot, some of my parts are missing.
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: 1
Send TopicPrint
‹ Previous Topic | Next Topic ›
 
  « Board Index ‹ Board Top  

ASSRA Forum » Powered by YaBB 2.6.12!
YaBB Forum Software © 2000-2025. All Rights Reserved.

Valid RSS Valid XHTML Valid CSS Powered by Perl Source Forge

Page completed in 1.1826 seconds.