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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12487 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Trailboss & 38-55 Reply #15 - Aug 29^th, 2015 at 5:49pm	Print Post
	Jeff_Schultz wrote on Aug 29^th, 2015 at 5:39pm: It's for cowboy shooting. It's garbage. Don't waste your time. I apologize in advance to the people I have offended. I been to a couple of those CA shoots. Really enjoy the women dressed up in those big fancy dresses. The perfume and swishing really gets to me. A little cleavage is swell too. Getting side swiped by one of those gals really makes my day. Somebody hold me back! Oops, looks like I'm outa time here. Joe.

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chawk Full Member Offline Posts: 218 Location: Virginia Joined: Jan 29^th, 2014	Re: Trailboss & 38-55 Reply #16 - Aug 29^th, 2015 at 5:58pm	Print Post
	I cannot speak to the accuracy of trailboss but it does have two advantages against most powders. 1)Soft shooting. It is designed for low velocity cowboy lead bullets so it doesn't have a ton of recoil. I have loaded it in 45/70 and it is indeed a pussycat. 2)Just about impossible to overload it. As long as you don't compress it, I don't think you can overload it. If it fits in the case, you can shoot it. These are both fine attributes in a powder to be sure, but I have not heard tales of incredible accuracy, only acceptable accuracy. Rightly or wrongly I think of it as the smokeless equivalent of BP.


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bpjack Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3924 Location: East Olympia, WA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: Trailboss & 38-55 Reply #17 - Aug 29^th, 2015 at 9:26pm	Print Post
	I was loading some 38-55 BP today so I decided to weigh a full case of Trail Boss. Just about 16gr to the top of the case. Jack

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colo native Oldtimer Offline Posts: 760 Location: Barren Ridge, Va Joined: Dec 27^th, 2007	Re: Trailboss & 38-55 Reply #18 - Aug 29^th, 2015 at 10:02pm	Print Post
	when I talked to the folks they said fill to base of bullet, weight it and reduce to 75%..


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GeorgeC Oldtimer Offline ASSRA 11411 Posts: 521 Location: Madison, IN Joined: Dec 27^th, 2012	Re: Trailboss & 38-55 Reply #19 - Aug 29^th, 2015 at 11:23pm	Print Post
	Looking for some loads for my new .327 Federal Magnum Ruger#3. Opinions on Trail Boss. Using a 170 gr. cast bullet, breech seated.

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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2944 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: Trailboss & 38-55 Reply #20 - Aug 30^th, 2015 at 7:00am	Print Post
	There you go, George. Fill to the base of the bullet and reduce by 1/3 as a starting point. Work up from there.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12487 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Trailboss & 38-55 Reply #21 - Aug 30^th, 2015 at 10:37am	Print Post
	66 percent, 1/3, 3/4? Must be a forgiving powder. Not from the numbers I see posted here. Very high pressures for low velocity. Very very light and fluffy for sure. Joe.

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GeorgeC Oldtimer Offline ASSRA 11411 Posts: 521 Location: Madison, IN Joined: Dec 27^th, 2012	Re: Trailboss & 38-55 Reply #22 - Aug 30^th, 2015 at 10:32pm	Print Post
	Hodgdon's Trail Boss load data says 70%. The problem with finding load data for my .327 Fed. Mag. is pistol data with a 115 gr. cast bullet is the heaviest load I've found. I am thinking about using load data for the .32-20 WCF.

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RoyB Oldtimer Offline Posts: 851 Location: Dartmouth, MA Joined: Mar 28^th, 2011	Re: Trailboss & 38-55 Reply #23 - Sep 9^th, 2015 at 7:48am	Print Post
	Recently bought a Winchester Model 71 Reproduction (Browning)in 348 Winchester. Tried the 70% Trail Boss rule and locked the rifle up solid! Thought might have had an overload so extremely carefully loaded another round with the same results. Huge pressure issues. Used other, slower powders at much higher velocity with zero issues. We are still not sure what happened. Maybe TB doesn't like a bottle neck case? When I look at pressure curves of TB I'm always concerned about how fast the pressure spikes....not the amount of pressure.

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MartiniBelgian Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1736 Location: Aarschot Joined: Jun 7^th, 2004	Re: Trailboss & 38-55 Reply #24 - Sep 10^th, 2015 at 12:13am	Print Post
	I believe that stuff and the fill grade indication will work untill you get to the bigger cases. If someone would try to make a load with the stuff for a .577 NE or similar large-case double, the rifle will most likely blow up. Don't forget this is essentially a bulky pistol powder.


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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2684 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: Trailboss & 38-55 Reply #25 - Sep 10^th, 2015 at 9:06am	Print Post
	Here is some load data from IMR. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Good luck getting it to shoot well. I have half of a can left from several years ago. The best thing about it is that the rifle will be very quiet . I've had quite decent accuracy at 100, but by 200 there was an enormous amount of vertical dispersion. Worse than any powder I've ever used. Chris.


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win 32-40 Ex Member	Re: Trailboss & 38-55 Reply #26 - Sep 11^th, 2015 at 11:00pm	Print Post
	It is also the worst , most unrewararding powder I have ever tried , but I am going to try again in 45-70 and 38-55 , and heres why , I may have stopped at too low of a dose. It was always very docile in kick and noise , and the SASS shooters only were extolling its virtues , not needing accuracy. The accuracy shooters , myself included were discgusted and perhaps gave up too early , being paranoid of the high pressure spikes ,(possibly rightly so in the case of old weak Ballards and the Like) that I now believe I was far away from spikes and that the powder is probably load sensitive , needing a bare minimum dose to show accuracy. I certainly never encountered any pressure signs. The perfect vehicle to test better strength loads ( within the non compressing maximum deadlines ) may be a strong modern Mirouku Single Shot. I would love to tame my 45-70 BPCR, being an excellent rifle other than the excessive recoil , even with mild 4198 loads
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