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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 701 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Stevens Lady's Model & a Question Aug 10^th, 2015 at 2:37pm	Print Post
	Picked up the little lady's rifle pictured below last week. In .25-21 Stevens, it's been completely refurbished with new wood, a relined barrel, re-case colored, and re-blued. Given the clarity of the stamp on the barrel, they must have started with an almost new rifle. Lyman 103 tang sight, two leaf rear, and a Beach's combination front sight. Question: is this an "Oh" 44 1/2 or a "Zero" 44 1/2? Grant's book has it both ways, and I'm curious as to which is proper.
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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 701 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: Stevens Lady's Model & a Question Reply #1 - Aug 10^th, 2015 at 2:48pm	Print Post
	Close up of the action.


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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Stevens Lady's Model & a Question Reply #2 - Aug 10^th, 2015 at 2:58pm	Print Post
	As named by Stevens, the No. 044 1/2 was called the "ENGLISH" model. It was not called the "Oh" 44 1/2 or "Zero" 44 1/2 by Stevens, just as the model 1885 was not called the hiwall or lowwall by WRA. The Stevens "LADIES" model is a No. 56, and if you pull the fore-end, you should see 56 stamped into the front of the frame. Nice refinish on a nice rifle!

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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 701 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: Stevens Lady's Model & a Question Reply #3 - Aug 10^th, 2015 at 3:02pm	Print Post
	Oh, I was under the impresion that all of the small actions were 044 1/2 rifles. I'll go pull the forend and see what's there. Thanks!


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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Stevens Lady's Model & a Question Reply #4 - Aug 10^th, 2015 at 3:17pm	Print Post
	Smoke, The 044 1/2 was the same size in profile (side view) as the 44 1/2, but the 044 1/2 frame was made narrower, making it lighter in weight than the 44 1/2. The "ENGLISH" model 044 1/2 was the basic narrow frame version that came with a single trigger, straight grip and Stagshead shotgun butt plate. The "LADIES" model 56 was an up-graded version of the "ENGLISH" model 044 1/2, gussied up with extra goodies.

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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 701 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: Stevens Lady's Model & a Question Reply #5 - Aug 10^th, 2015 at 4:41pm	Print Post
	BP wrote on Aug 10^th, 2015 at 2:58pm: As named by Stevens, the No. 044 1/2 was called the "ENGLISH" model. Well, the front of the receiver says "0 44 1/2 0" and "EX" and the gun has double set triggers and a small swiss butt. Is this is an English model or a Lady's Model (or some conglomeration of the two)? BP wrote on Aug 10^th, 2015 at 2:58pm: Nice refinish on a nice rifle! Thanks!


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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Stevens Lady's Model & a Question Reply #6 - Aug 10^th, 2015 at 5:59pm	Print Post
	Well, Smoke, to my way of thinking, someone took a 044 1/2 and obtained the other parts and wood needed to make it all *look* like a "LADIES" model 56. The stamping on the front of the frame (and a couple other details) pretty much tells the story. If you're not into it too high, and bought it to be used as a really nice shooter, then hopefully you can enjoy it as such. If you bought it as a colletor item, then... But you'll have to decide on that for yourself.

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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 701 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: Stevens Lady's Model & a Question Reply #7 - Aug 10^th, 2015 at 9:44pm	Print Post
	I bought it as a shooter. The seller represented it as NOT a 56, but as a completely rebuilt 044 1/2. I have a grandaughter that I'm going to lure into schuetzen with it. Thanks for the clarification!


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joel_black88 Participating Member Offline Posts: 18 Joined: May 21^st, 2015	Re: Stevens Lady's Model & a Question Reply #8 - Aug 11^th, 2015 at 4:35pm	Print Post
	Having collected Stevens Lady models for more than 50 years, I can assure you that Stevens was "typically" unpredictable with marking them. This first marking is model 56 SN 2606. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) This one is SN 3420. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


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sakoman Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 282 Location: Phoenix, AZ Joined: Feb 20^th, 2006	Re: Stevens Lady's Model & a Question Reply #9 - Aug 11^th, 2015 at 8:35pm	Print Post
	Do you know who did the refurbish? Really nice rifle.


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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 701 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: Stevens Lady's Model & a Question Reply #10 - Aug 11^th, 2015 at 9:29pm	Print Post
	Nope. The seller had no idea who did the work. Too bad. I've got a .32-40 44 1/2 I'd love to have the guy color.


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John Boy Ex Member	Re: Stevens Lady's Model & a Question Reply #11 - Aug 14^th, 2015 at 11:37am	Print Post
	Quote: I'd love to have the guy color. Smoke, is this close enough? Call the Shuttleworth's at CPA Rifles (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Stevens Lady's Model & a Question Reply #12 - Aug 14^th, 2015 at 3:46pm	Print Post
	I would like to find out who CPA sends their actions to for the Stevens style coloring.

	There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading, the few who learn by observation, and the rest who have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves. Proud Noodlehead
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Smoke Oldtimer Offline Posts: 701 Location: San Diego Joined: Feb 24^th, 2013	Re: Stevens Lady's Model & a Question Reply #13 - Aug 15^th, 2015 at 1:18am	Print Post
	Quote: Smoke, is this close enough? Pretty close. Thanks


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