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Aug 10th, 2015 at 12:57pm
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Tried my Ballard at 300 yards, Lyman 20X STS scope.   

Ran out of clicks.  With elevation all the way up (380 clicks, top to bottom) hits were about 12" low.  I was able to score using a secondary aiming point, but that is not OK if I want to be able to compete at this range.

Any suggestions?  If I install a higher rear scope block, will that solve the problem?
  
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Reply #1 - Aug 10th, 2015 at 1:39pm
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yes,  or just put a shim under it and try it.  maybe about .030 will do it    art
  
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Reply #2 - Aug 10th, 2015 at 2:19pm
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What cartridge? You might be able to flatten your trajectory with a bit more powder.
  

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Reply #3 - Aug 10th, 2015 at 2:58pm
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Find a slightly lower front sight block or higher rear block.
  
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Reply #4 - Aug 10th, 2015 at 3:41pm
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A .015 shim under the rear mount will get you close to 24" @ 300 if your mounts are 7.2".

If you have a 3/16" tall, front mount, your objective bell might contact the barrel. 

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Reply #5 - Aug 10th, 2015 at 4:03pm
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.22 Long Rifle cartridge.  When raised to max elevation (Lyman 20X STS) I have about 3/8" clearance between scope & barrel.
  
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Reply #6 - Aug 10th, 2015 at 4:33pm
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I ment a 3/16" scope block, not mount. My 20x STS bell will touch the barrel at max elevation, on a straight octagon barrel, if both blocks are 3/16 high.

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Reply #7 - Aug 10th, 2015 at 9:28pm
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frnkeore wrote on Aug 10th, 2015 at 4:33pm:
I ment a 3/16" scope block, not mount. My 20x STS bell will touch the barrel at max elevation, on a straight octagon barrel, if both blocks are 3/16 high.

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My 3/4" tube 20x Unertl did too.  Had to go to higher blocks.  My Ballard is 1/2 oct ~ 1/2 round.
  

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Reply #8 - Aug 10th, 2015 at 9:38pm
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After reading all the previous posts, I knew there was a reason I liked those old-fashioned 3/4" tubed scopes that have a 3/4" front lens.     Wink

  

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Reply #9 - Aug 11th, 2015 at 11:29am
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Yes, my old 3/4" tube scopes will get me to 300 yds. just fine, and almost to 400 yds., but not quite. Had to pick random brush and rocks above the target to reach 400 yds. to 650 yds.
  

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Reply #10 - Aug 11th, 2015 at 9:45pm
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I have shot most of my .22's at 200 fair  amount. When I go to 300 on the iron sight guns sight needs so much crank my head comes off the stock  None of my internal adjustment .22 scoped guns will elevate for 300

Having said that I bet I can get my MVA B5 to adjust to 300 with little change in head position. No Bell to get in the way

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Reply #11 - Aug 12th, 2015 at 8:17am
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If you have a low rear base and a tall front base the scope levels out perfect is that ok? Hank
  
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Reply #12 - Aug 12th, 2015 at 8:27am
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Hank, The reverse, if your scope won't adjust for longer distance you need a higher rear block, or a lower front. Either change may have its issues. Scopes bell hitting the barrel or your cheek comming off the stock.

If you mean scopes body being level OK ? It does not have anything to do with strike on target. Important is the scopes line of sight in relationship to the guns bore, and taking into consideration bullets drop. Level is not part of the equation

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Reply #13 - Aug 12th, 2015 at 1:26pm
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Hank45 wrote on Aug 12th, 2015 at 8:17am:
If you have a low rear base and a tall front base the scope levels out perfect is that ok? Hank


Yes, that is the prefered method, with a tapered barrel. You see that a lot with bolt action rifles. That's so the top of the blocks and therefore the dove tails, are inline with the bore axis. But, if you can't obtain that, always make the front block lower and the closest match to the rear block.

That will generally put the rear mount, somewhere in it's midle range of adjustment, for our velocity range.

If you want the maximun adjustment and your closest range is 100 yards. Sight it in about 3" low at 100, with the lowest velociy load that you will shoot and keep raising the rear block, to maintain that "O".

If you have a way of measuring the distance between the bottom of the scope tube and the bottom of the cradle that it fits in, in the mount, that should be the amount that you can raise the rear block but, keep in mind that the bell of the scope, may interfere with your plans and you may have to raise the front block first.

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