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Barrel relining
Aug 1st, 2015 at 10:36am
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I have a Winchester low wall that is chambered in 22 WCF with a no. 2 barrel.  At some time in the past it has been refinished by a professional.  That being done, it has lost some collector value and relining to 32-20 would be OK in my mind.  My question is, who would be a good person to do the work of relining the barrel?  I live in Western Pennsylvania north of Pittsburgh.  I would like to find someone that is closer to home to do the work but I am willing to do what ever it takes and send it where ever it needs to be done.  What are your suggestions?
  
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Re: Barrel relining
Reply #1 - Aug 1st, 2015 at 12:21pm
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Have you used it as it is? If not, maybe a trial in that form would be fun before you rework it. I just say that because the .32-20 is a cartridge that can bring it's own share of headaches. Not a bad choice, but the one you have is just about as capable. If you have a ruined bore or something, have at it.
  
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Reply #2 - Aug 1st, 2015 at 12:34pm
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Bob Hoyt in Fairfield, PA has been doing gun barrels for years, and has a very good reputation for quality work.
Being just west of Gettysburg, he's probably a couple of hours east of you.
  
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Reply #3 - Aug 2nd, 2015 at 8:22am
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What are the problems that might be associated with 32-20?
  
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Re: Barrel relining
Reply #4 - Aug 2nd, 2015 at 10:04am
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tdelewis wrote on Aug 2nd, 2015 at 8:22am:
What are the problems that might be associated with 32-20?


Good question! It's always been my favorite pistol caliber for a rifle, and I've not had any issues with it myself.
  
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Reply #5 - Aug 2nd, 2015 at 12:13pm
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22 to 32, have it re-bored, might save a few bucks.
  
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Reply #6 - Aug 2nd, 2015 at 3:58pm
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John Taylor wrote on Aug 2nd, 2015 at 12:13pm:
22 to 32, have it re-bored, might save a few bucks.

That's what I did with a 22 Lovell and am quite pleased.
  
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Reply #7 - Aug 2nd, 2015 at 5:19pm
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I only meant that the .32-20 causes some fidgeting with the case because it's so thin that the brass can crack or crumple pretty easy after the cases have been sized a few times. And, it's pretty tough to get even annealing on them. Mostly, I was saying the difference in the performance of the two cartridges you mention is very little for the effort of changing. Do as you prefer, of course.
  
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Reply #8 - Aug 2nd, 2015 at 7:21pm
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If Bobby has the tooling, he should be able to just re-bore and re-rifle your barrel. Distance wise your probably looking at about a 5 or so hour drive, not something you would probably want to do a round trip of in a day but it is doable. 
If you want to go with a reline, you may want to give Ted Ulmer a call. I don't know what all he does and/or can do but he has done some work for me and I am happy with it. Ted is located not far from State College, I don't have his number handy but will look around and post it here when I find it.
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Reply #9 - Aug 3rd, 2015 at 8:31am
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Ted Ulmer's number is 814-364-9230.
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Reply #10 - Aug 3rd, 2015 at 8:54am
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These places do rebores. I did not include Delta gun shop because Jim died from cancer a couple weeks ago and I don't know if anyone is running his equipment. This is not a complete list.


Classic Barrel & Gunworks
339 Grove Av.
Prescott, Az. 86301
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928-772-4060

Redmans Rifling and Reboring
Randall Redman      
189 Nichols Rd.      
Omak, Wa. 98841      
509-826-5512

Siegrist Gun Shop
Al Siegrist
8752 Turtle Rd.
Whittemore, Mi. 48770
989-873-3929

Starlight Enterprises      
Randy Selby      
PO Box 221 
Wapiti Wy. 82450
307-587-3581

Sonny France
4932 Grandview
Okemos Mi 48864
517-349-4532
  
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Reply #11 - Aug 3rd, 2015 at 9:04am
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The gun I am considering a reline was made in 1888.  I considered a reline because it would be modern steel as opposed to older steel.  I think I have read on the forum that there may be some issues with older steel when they are rebored.  Is that possible?
  
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Reply #12 - Aug 3rd, 2015 at 10:37am
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Have you considered our very own John Taylor?
  
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Reply #13 - Aug 3rd, 2015 at 10:40am
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The older steel is softer and sometimes gives a smoother finish when re-bored. I have troubles with nickel steel sometimes because of the hardness. 
The liners are made from 4130 aircraft steel tube and hammer forge process makes them a little harder than the button rifled liners. Also the hammer forged liners are much smoother than a cut rifled barrel.
I prefer doing re-bores when going to a larger caliber, saves the cost of a liner. Some barrels do not cut smooth and require a liner.
  
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Reply #14 - Aug 3rd, 2015 at 12:03pm
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From the poor service I got form Redmond's I would not recommend them to anybody Ken
  
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