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44 1/2 lever tension question
Jul 6th, 2015 at 8:38pm
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OK, dumb but happy here.  Thanks to Boats I have a taylor made pin for lining everything up when I reassemble my 44 1/2 but I have not done it enough yet to be very good.  I fight my way through the process and then when the moons line up in the sky and I push forward at the right time the block falls right out.  Now I have been reading about the lever tension screw and loosening this makes life easier.  My serial number is 11xxx and for the life of me I cannot find the screw you refer to.  Putting it back together is a bigger fight as the lever tension is working against me it seems.  Where exactly is this screw and what are the secrets to taking this apart without saying bad words?  Tom   Undecided
  
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Re: 44 1/2 lever tension question
Reply #1 - Jul 6th, 2015 at 8:47pm
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I believe that this may be the screw that your looking for.

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Reply #2 - Jul 6th, 2015 at 9:11pm
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Does that mean I have to take the barrel of first?  Looks like it is hidden by the barrel.  Tom
  
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Re: 44 1/2 lever tension question
Reply #3 - Jul 6th, 2015 at 11:55pm
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Tom,

If you can make it to Modesto Rifle Club this Friday or Saturday we can have a quick CPA seminar. You'll find plenty of them on the line.

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Re: 44 1/2 lever tension question
Reply #4 - Jul 7th, 2015 at 11:24am
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Jerry, I had all great intentions of driving over but I have hip surgery in a few weeks and driving that far has become very painful.  Every time I see a picture of the groups fired at 200 yards with lead bullets I am very impressed to say the least!  Hopefully will be able to attend a match this fall.  In the meantime, don't have heat stroke! I will try to send some fog your way. Tom
  
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Re: 44 1/2 lever tension question
Reply #5 - Jul 7th, 2015 at 12:17pm
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That screw shown on the front of the action is for the breech block rocker and is spring loaded. The lever tension is supplied by a spring and plunger found under the lever to breech block connecting link and is non adjustable. The trick to removing and replacing the breach block is knowing when to cam the lever forward. With the lever cammed forward the ear on the back of the breech block / lever link will clear the action and the block will drop right out.
The breach block rocker simply pushes the block back on closing. If not pushed back it will not close unless done manualy by pushing the bottom of the breach block forward. Be careful on some models the plunger, spring and plunger cup will fall out and can be difficult to find. The screw only adjusts the tension on the breech block rocker. To loose and the block won't rock back and close, to tight and again the block won't close.
Next time you have the block out push forward and backward on the lever and you can feel the link snap into both postions by the lever spring and plunger.
When replacing the breech block it is not uncommon to have to push the breech block rocker back for the top of the breech block to clear it.

I hope this is helpful.
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Re: 44 1/2 lever tension question
Reply #6 - Jul 7th, 2015 at 10:28pm
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I use a brass pin, slightly smaller in diameter than the lever pin, with a taper on one end to push out the lever pin and especially to re-install the assembly.  It lines up the extractor during re-assembly.  I push the brass pin out with the regular pin which makes the whole works go together easily.

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Re: 44 1/2 lever tension question
Reply #7 - Jul 8th, 2015 at 7:15am
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Tom

You don't have to take the barrel off to switch extractors, but it's a lot easier if you do. Plunger tension gets in the way of a smooth block insert, and most extractor switches need a barrel change anyway. Other option is to press it back from the block side as you insert the block as John suggested.

Franks photo shows the screw very well

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Re: 44 1/2 lever tension question
Reply #8 - Jul 8th, 2015 at 8:55am
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Bullseyetom-  Beware hip surgury and travel to Modesto Matches!  I had my left hip replaced on May 28, just following meeting up with Jerry H and Rich Davis in Modesto-  all was well for 10 days, til I fell and broke  the same femur in 3 places-- more surgury to wrap all in stainless steel cable and reassemble, and a week later we're back in hospital with internal infection in the hip joint!   As much as I detest being told to follow doctor's orders, I did, just to be released finally 7/7/17---
Moral of all this, "beware of visiting bugs in hip joints after meeting with Modesto shooters!   
Well done Guys on the fresh scores, and please distract the Mrs so I can get in some trigger time---
THX  Chuck V
  
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Re: 44 1/2 lever tension question
Reply #9 - Jul 8th, 2015 at 11:58am
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Right - wrong or indifferent, I set the screw for the breech block rocker flush with the receiver.  The block can be dropped out of the action by not fully removing the screw
  
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Re: 44 1/2 lever tension question
Reply #10 - Jul 8th, 2015 at 12:56pm
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You only need enough spring tension on the rocker to hold the breach block back so it will close. There is no need to ever remove the screw or to back off the tension to remove or to reinsatall the breach block. I have never found the need to remove the barrel it just takes some practice and it will become second nature. The tapered pin that JS mentioned in his post would indeed make it easier for those switching barrels and extractors on a regular basis.
  
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Re: 44 1/2 lever tension question
Reply #11 - Jul 8th, 2015 at 1:05pm
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Chuck, sounds like tons of fun!  This is the first year since 1961 that I did not buy a deer tag because of both hips being replaced.  The one they did already feels so good if the second does as god next year I might hunt with a spear!  Boats, the pin you built me works like a charm.  Many thanks.  I just got a wrench and will attempt to remove the tight barrel so it can be taken off easier in the future.  Now my big problem will be what caliber for the next barrel for that action.  It currently is a 6mm-30/30 Improved but a shortened case.  It has a 1/12 twist so am having trouble finding a suitable hunting bullet that shoots as good as I would like.  I am thinking of a 7x30 Waters, a 25 Krag or a 25-35 AI.  Thinking of going with a #1 contour half octagon 24" long.  Life is tough when that is the major question of the day!  Tom
  
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Re: 44 1/2 lever tension question
Reply #12 - Jul 9th, 2015 at 8:32pm
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Tom if you are looking for something to hunt with it might be best to look at the most available lead free bullets that are not only available but also provide the broadest selection in this lead free state that we both live in.
God forbid a Ca. Condor should perish from digesting a lead bullet from an unclaimed wounded animal. I fear this new law is going to be the demise of the majority of the Fish and Game funds in this State and good game management and what little abundance of game we have will ultimately suffer for it unfortunatly. 

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