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Who shoots obsolete caartridges
Jul 3rd, 2015 at 4:36pm
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Who shoots rifles using obsolete cartridges regularly? new or original.

I shoot what I call a 42 Wesson altho it isn't quite like the original because I couldn't find a parent case that would work.
  
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Re: Who shoots obsolete caartridges
Reply #1 - Jul 3rd, 2015 at 4:52pm
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please define obsolete cartridges, in your context?
 
Between the guys shooting Schuetzen-style target (100 and 200 yards), the BPCR and Long ranges shooters and the hunters, lots of us shoot cartridges that are no longer available as factory loaded ammunition.

Some shoot vintage variations on "factory" ammunition  ( i.e.   the .33-40)

those of us who shoot original european single shots frequently find that the original factory cartridges are no longer available.
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Reply #2 - Jul 3rd, 2015 at 5:02pm
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42 Wesson? That is a wildcat cartridge?

Most of the single shots I shoot use obsolete ammunition. 

Two of them are chambered .32 Krag straight. Wildcat. I'm a wildcatter!

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Reply #3 - Jul 3rd, 2015 at 5:26pm
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QuestionableMaynard8130 wrote on Jul 3rd, 2015 at 4:52pm:
please define obsolete cartridges, in your context?


I was just thinking of any of the not so common ones like the Wesson cartridges, Ballards, Maynards Peabodys etc.
  
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westerner wrote on Jul 3rd, 2015 at 5:02pm:
42 Wesson? That is a wildcat cartridge?
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No It was a factory round for the Frank Wesson Rifle.
Mines Kinda a wildcat cause I used the 45-90 case instead of a base like the 444 marlin. Mine is just a necked up 40-82. or necked down 45-90.
  
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Reply #5 - Jul 3rd, 2015 at 5:57pm
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I'd never heard of a 42 Wesson. Is not listed in cartridges Of The World. 

Sooo.........?    

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Reply #6 - Jul 3rd, 2015 at 6:21pm
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I occasionally shoot a .43 Wesson in an original tip up Creedmore. It is a straight case of about 85 grains capacity and .437 groove diameter. As for Bullet I simply us the Ideal 43 Spanish.
  
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Reply #7 - Jul 3rd, 2015 at 6:22pm
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How about a 42 Russian?  The case is 2.26" and is in the Cartridge Conversions Table

Anyway, my obsoletes are 
* 25 Stevens reformed from Hornets in a Favorite
* Stevens 25-21 in a CPA 
*  9.5x47R, designed in 1880 and lasted 10 years - in a Schuetzen rifle
* Have Steyer Martini Henry in 557/450 but at $8.75 per case ... the rifle is a safe queen
  
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Reply #8 - Jul 3rd, 2015 at 6:22pm
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Reply #9 - Jul 3rd, 2015 at 7:07pm
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coincidently, looking thru the Cartridges for Collectors book I see the 10.3 X 65R Baenzinger  is a dead ringer for the 42 wesson and Brass is available thru Huntingtons. And Pacific has the Reamer

I now know what I'm going to chamber my WicKliffe rifle to Smiley
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Reply #10 - Jul 3rd, 2015 at 7:15pm
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The .43 is extremely close to the 444 Marlin only a 2.6" case. Now I use 40-90 basic and modify the base just a tad.
  
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Reply #11 - Jul 3rd, 2015 at 7:34pm
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Sounds like an interesting one !!
  
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Reply #12 - Jul 3rd, 2015 at 7:39pm
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Can't find the 43 wesson.
these are all I see:

Caliber      Bullet Dia.      Case length      Rim Dia.      Neck Dia.      Base Dia.
30/15            .310            1.550            .410            .339            .342
30/30             .308         1.640               .436         .329        .377   
30/40            .308            1.630            .436            .329            .377
32/25            .318            1.615            .380            .318            .320
35 Wssn         .350            2.500            .500            .378            .435
40/60            .404            2.210            .553            .426            .455
40/70            .401            2.310            .530            .425            .462
42 Wssn         .429            2.500            .507            .448            .449
42/100        .429            2.910            .505            .448            .449
44 Ex long       .440            1.630            .510            .441            .441
44/85            .466            2.880            .605            .515            .515
44/90            .451            2.500            .663            .487            .537
44/100            .445            3.380            .605            .515            .515
50 Wssn          .501            1.875            .610            .526            .537
  
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Reply #13 - Jul 3rd, 2015 at 7:40pm
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Did you notice on the Centerfire chart ... 42-100 Wesson!
Neat chart - Thanks
  
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Re: Who shoots obsolete caartridges
Reply #14 - Jul 3rd, 2015 at 7:44pm
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42 Wesson, way obscure obsolete!
   

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