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Stevens 44 1/2 dissasembley.
Jun 15th, 2015 at 8:03pm
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English Model. pulled the finger lever pin. Breech block is supposed to just drop out the bottom of the action. No go. I have taken 44 1/2's apart before without a problem, but never an English Model. The link seems to be hitting the back of the frame. I must be missing something that should be obvious. Tried pushing the breech block plunger back and no help. Supposed to have to push it back to re assemble it. What am I not seeing that should be seeing?
  
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Re: Stevens 44 1/2 dissasembley.
Reply #1 - Jun 15th, 2015 at 8:36pm
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It has been a long time, but I seem to recall that I had to remove the lever pin, open the lever, drop the breech block down as far as it would go and then either push forward or pull back on the lever to change the position of the link.  At that point the block should come out.

Should that not work, I would be happy to accept your rifle as a gift and thus relieve you of a load of frustration.
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Re: Stevens 44 1/2 dissasembley.
Reply #2 - Jun 15th, 2015 at 8:45pm
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I have played with the lever on two occasions without success. Will keep going back to it. I think its one of those things that the wind has to be in the right direction to get things lined up so it will fall out.
  
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Re: Stevens 44 1/2 dissasembley.
Reply #3 - Jun 15th, 2015 at 9:40pm
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On your 44.5 action, the screw #8 sometimes wants to back out of the breech block #7, jamming the action. You should tap the block out with a piece of soft wood. Then after a thorough cleaning, use a tiny bit of locktite (not the permanent stuff) to secure the screw so that it doesn't back out again.
  
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Reply #4 - Jun 15th, 2015 at 11:52pm
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Sometimes cocking the hammer helps.  I open the action, pull the lever pin, cock the hammer and pull the lever down, pushing it forward simultaneously while keeping the handle part in the full open (straight down) direction.  Keep finger away from trigger (of course).

The hang ups I experience are generally from a battered or slightly too long firing pin catching on the lower part of the hammer or the little angled boss on the front of the extractor hitting the frame as the extractor tries to relax back into its slot.
  
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Reply #5 - Jun 15th, 2015 at 11:59pm
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My 44 1/2 seems to let the block out and back in easier if the lever is more in the closed position rather than the fully open.

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Re: Stevens 44 1/2 dissasembley.
Reply #6 - Jun 16th, 2015 at 12:36am
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Had the hammer cocked. Firing pin was broken so not the problem. Just got back in from my garage/shop. Wind was blowing in the right direction. Worked the lever back and forth and something snapped into position and it came right out. Firing pin was well rusted into place. Soaked with Kroll and tapped it out with a pin punch. Cleaned all the rust out and fitted the new firing pin. Broken pin was the reason for disassembly. Seemed strange that the firing pin was badly rusted when the rest of the gun showed no signs of rust. Wish it could talk and explain that one. Thinking about fitting a return spring on the firing pin. Have done it before using a piece of coil spring from a ball point pen. Seemed to work fine and helps keep firing pins from breaking. Have a couple of other things to check out when I get it back together. New to me toy and want to get it functional to see how it shoots. Thanks to all for the input.
  
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Reply #7 - Jun 16th, 2015 at 11:27am
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You know, it seems to me that one of the most common maladys that our favorite guns have when they are rescued from the closets and attics is that they have crud inside the breechblock. I've taken several Winchesters apart and found a century's worth of crap inside. Maybe yours had a collection of dirt, primer dust and whatnot to induce rust? The Wins usually have a bunch of oily crud in them from the oldtimers "lubing" the works from the vent hole. Then, the dirt gets in and clogs 'em up till they start sticking. Glad you got it apart to fix it.
  
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Re: Stevens 44 1/2 dissasembley.
Reply #8 - Jun 16th, 2015 at 12:24pm
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Cleaning a Ballard;
  
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Reply #9 - Jun 16th, 2015 at 2:54pm
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Like I suggested, huh? Crud seems to thrive in falling breechblocks. I never tried oven cleaner- next time I get a new (old) rifle that will be good to remember. Anyway, I'm still happy that slumlord got his rusty pin out.
  
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Re: Stevens 44 1/2 dissasembley.
Reply #10 - Jun 16th, 2015 at 10:32pm
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Never thought of using oven cleaner on gun parts. Should be no problem on our old stuff but newer guns with aluminum and alloy parts might be a problem. An ultrasonic cleaner would be another option.
  
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