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Reply #15 - May 30th, 2015 at 11:09pm
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slumlord,

If you want an all-inclusive book on Stevens, you'll have to write it yourself.   Grin

  

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Reply #16 - May 30th, 2015 at 11:59pm
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Simply look at the extractors changes they did on the Fav, and compare them to the 44 1/2 time frame.

The 44 1/2 came out in 1903 with the spring loaded plunger bearing on the link.

Then all of a sudden the Fav and 44 have the same system, but the Fav had the lever redesigned to clear the hole for the spring.

Also look at the 25 Stevens cartridge, some date it as 1903. but the Stevens catalogs show it in 1901. Lots of side extractor Fav out there in 25 cal, which corrensponds with the extractor change to center style. Again look at parts lists and you will see patterns of internal changes that can be dated.

Figure an year for the factory to use up parts, but they had to keep a few on hand for repairs, and you can work out a time line of certain changes.

The M21 you have has the S shaped lever, which was only used on the side extractor, and the first type of Center extractor, with the .240 wide top. That is the two normal extractors you encounter with that shape of lever.

Yes the factory records are gone, but they left an trail of catalogs, and parts lists for you to pick thru

I have tracked down and have sample rifles of 6 different shaped Favorite extactors, and if you look at them you can see the production style changes they did.

I guess I have just come from it using a different point of view.

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Reply #17 - May 31st, 2015 at 12:19am
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I had another thought.

I have encountered three differenet size stamps on the assembly/serial numbers on the Favorites

The oldest favorites with  the side extractors and the 4 to 5 digit serial number, used a 5/32" tall script shaped stamp.

Then after the center extractor came into use they went to a block shaped 1/8" tall stamp.

Then on the model 1915's and late 1894's they used a block shaped 9/64" tall stamp. This is the same size stamp as on the later Savage marked ones.

Just another observation, and different point of view.

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Reply #18 - May 31st, 2015 at 2:03pm
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The collective knowledge displayed around here amazes me.  Observations of subtle variations by many individuals, gained from numerous sources and years of experience, all freely set forth in an attempt to enlighten all of us.  And, it is all the more valuable, especially because of those lost records.

Thank you.

Kudos, gentlemen.
  
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Reply #19 - May 31st, 2015 at 10:01pm
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Sure wish it could be archived in a way that was easier to research. The search function is not always my friend. I have manually searched past posts on occasion to research a particular model.
  
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Reply #20 - Sep 23rd, 2015 at 4:51pm
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Oye am I ever late on this one! Up here in Canada and locally in southern Ontario I have found a deluxe Stevens that some industrialist father bought for his son. It was the early square frame corner type action , single trigger , straight grip super deluxe wood, swiss butt plate, .22 caliber. This must have cost the father a bit more than the ladies model. You just can't give a boy a ladies rifle you know - it just doesn't jive! It was the one and only small frame deluxe rifle that I have ever seen in 40 years.
There were many S/S clubs out here back in the day. Some interesting gents from Michigan showed up at the events. Ahhh those days!
  
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Reply #21 - Sep 24th, 2015 at 1:58am
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Do you have photos of this one? Would like to see it. 
With regard to all the info here I really need to print all these post out and file them. I did that some years back when the Stevens Bisley was discussed at length. I have one and am still looking for another one or any info on these if anyone has knowledge on this model.
  
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Reply #22 - Sep 26th, 2015 at 5:29pm
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Life#75 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2015 at 4:51pm:
Oye am I ever late on this one! Up here in Canada and locally in southern Ontario I have found a deluxe Stevens that some industrialist father bought for his son. It was the early square frame corner type action , single trigger , straight grip super deluxe wood, swiss butt plate, .22 caliber. This must have cost the father a bit more than the ladies model. You just can't give a boy a ladies rifle you know - it just doesn't jive! It was the one and only small frame deluxe rifle that I have ever seen in 40 years.
There were many S/S clubs out here back in the day. Some interesting gents from Michigan showed up at the events. Ahhh those days!


In regards to Canada and Stevens, Ken Cope who wrote the book on Stevens pistols and bicycle rifles moved from here in Wisconsin to Canada.
  
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