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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7271 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Stevens 47 DST .32 Ideal Reply #15 - May 3^rd, 2015 at 5:21pm	Print Post
	Adrian wrote on May 3^rd, 2015 at 2:34pm: Frank, it shoots better than i can hold, for now. See comments above. If you'll look at the post times, I was typing while you posted but, it sounded likeyou had shot it by borrowing it from him. Now that it's yours, you'll be able to do a lot more with it. Frank

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peterson2520ss Full Member Offline Life member 82 Posts: 128 Location: Yakima, WA Joined: Nov 3^rd, 2009	Re: Stevens 47 DST .32 Ideal Reply #16 - May 3^rd, 2015 at 6:07pm	Print Post
	Very interesting rifle. What part of the country are you in? The reason I ask is if you are droppong the rifle off in Lamar you can ask Lee to show you my Stevens 22 he is working on for me. I live in Armar KS. Det


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Stevens 47 DST .32 Ideal Reply #17 - May 3^rd, 2015 at 6:33pm	Print Post
	Looks mighty original to me. Except the buttplate, and the fold-down rear sight on the barrel. Can't find that in my catalogs. The s/n puts it (by my survey) within the first 1500 made after the 1896 changeover in model numbering. A photo of the Stevens rollstamp on top of the barrel should show the Apr 17, 94 patent date, but confirmation would be of interest. Also if you have the temerity to back out the lever pivot screw, I'd like to know the shank diameter. Should be about .258", but again confirmation would be appreciated. Curious anomaly: The frame is marked with a 0, which is supposed to show that it was sold with no modifications, yet it is a DST, which wasn't cataloged for the Model 47 in 1898. More sneaky stuff that Stevens did to keep us guessing 117 years later. Phil

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Adrian Full Member Offline Posts: 122 Joined: Mar 2^nd, 2015	Re: Stevens 47 DST .32 Ideal Reply #18 - May 3^rd, 2015 at 6:49pm	Print Post
	Phil, the roll mark is as you describe, i enclose here a photo, but the patent date is obscured by a shadow. It is as you would expect. The rear sight, folding, is made by Marbles. Probably rare and valuable, but it was a replacement done by the previous owner. Rub marks in the barrel finish behind this sight reveal that the rifle had a long buckhorn with ladder or elevator like most rifles of the time (Winchester or Marlin, for example). I am not brave or skilled enough to measure the pin that you ask, but i will take note and perhaps ask Mr. Shaver to check this, as he will take the rifle apart anyway, to clean and to see what is wrong with the trigger. It is scary light and not adjustable.


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Adrian Full Member Offline Posts: 122 Joined: Mar 2^nd, 2015	Re: Stevens 47 DST .32 Ideal Reply #19 - May 3^rd, 2015 at 6:51pm	Print Post
	uscra112 wrote on May 3^rd, 2015 at 6:33pm: Looks mighty original to me. Except the buttplate, and the fold-down rear sight on the barrel. Do you think that the tang sight is original to the rifle or period with the rifle?


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Adrian Full Member Offline Posts: 122 Joined: Mar 2^nd, 2015	Re: Stevens 47 DST .32 Ideal Reply #20 - May 3^rd, 2015 at 7:06pm	Print Post
	peterson2520ss wrote on May 3^rd, 2015 at 6:07pm: Very interesting rifle. What part of the country are you in? The reason I ask is if you are droppong the rifle off in Lamar you can ask Lee to show you my Stevens 22 he is working on for me. I live in Armar KS. Det I am about 4 hours north of Lamar. If he is so inclined, i would love to see your "baby".


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Adrian Full Member Offline Posts: 122 Joined: Mar 2^nd, 2015	Re: Stevens 47 DST .32 Ideal Reply #21 - May 3^rd, 2015 at 7:11pm	Print Post
	uscra112 wrote on May 3^rd, 2015 at 6:33pm: The s/n puts it (by my survey) within the first 1500 made after the 1896 changeover in model numbering. When was the .32 Ideal cartridge introduced? Thank you. I thought that this rifle was made about 1904. I am not a super collector and do not have access to catalogs, etc.


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shovel80 Oldtimer Offline Posts: 896 Location: Sonora,CA Joined: Jun 6^th, 2011	Re: Stevens 47 DST .32 Ideal Reply #22 - May 3^rd, 2015 at 7:23pm	Print Post
	Nice Rifle. I pickup up one today also. Mine is a 47 on a 44 1/2 action in .25-20. Serial # on mine is about 1000 higher. Terry
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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7271 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Stevens 47 DST .32 Ideal Reply #23 - May 3^rd, 2015 at 8:45pm	Print Post
	I think your trigger problem is the firing trigger return spring is to light. I have the same thing with my Model 45 DST. I'm sure that a CPA spring will cure it. I think the 7 O'clock extractor went away by 1900. Frank

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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Stevens 47 DST .32 Ideal Reply #24 - May 3^rd, 2015 at 8:50pm	Print Post
	The .32 Ideal is listed in the 1896 catalog, and the accompanying text implies that it was a new one that year. Adrian's rifle is definitely pre-1900. By 1904 the side extractor was long gone. Best info to date (catalogs again) is that the center extractor came in about 1900 or maybe 1901. I actually like the side extractor better. Easier to remove and re-install, and the breechblock is solid, maybe even a forging, while the BB for the center extractor is too much hollow, and appears to be a casting. Also, the side extractor BB is already machined to be compatible with the famous "lugged hammer", while the cast BB isn't. The 44 1/2 appeared in the lineup in 1903, and has it's own serial number sequence. I have not been tracking those.

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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Stevens 47 DST .32 Ideal Reply #25 - May 3^rd, 2015 at 9:01pm	Print Post
	Adrian wrote on May 3^rd, 2015 at 6:51pm: uscra112 wrote on May 3^rd, 2015 at 6:33pm: Looks mighty original to me. Except the buttplate, and the fold-down rear sight on the barrel. Do you think that the tang sight is original to the rifle or period with the rifle? Lyman tang sights were an option in 1898. But in that catalog only the Lyman #1, and yours is definitely a #2.

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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: Stevens 47 DST .32 Ideal Reply #26 - May 3^rd, 2015 at 10:24pm	Print Post
	It is hard to find a .32 Ideal Stevens. I finally found a 44 1/2 in .32 Ideal after a long search. Not sure what yours is worth. To me it is worth what you are willing to pay for it. I have never regret paying too much for a rare gun that I wanted badly enough. Mine is a Model 45 with a Stevens Venier tang sight with combination eye cup and Globe front sight. Came with breech loading tool and some bullets but no brass or dies. Pristine bore, nice wood and metal but not what I would call pristine. Paid around $3000 for it which I thought was too much about a year and a half ago.
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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Stevens 47 DST .32 Ideal Reply #27 - May 3^rd, 2015 at 11:40pm	Print Post
	slumlord44 wrote on May 3^rd, 2015 at 10:24pm: It is hard to find a .32 Ideal Stevens. True 'dat. I'd been scheming to build one for at least ten years, and then like a miracle I saw one on Gunbroker last June, (and was the only bidder!). It is only a plain trigger 45, but it had an easily fixed Cummins scope on it, and that alone must be worth more than I paid. I should add that the seller's description did it no justice, which may account for my being the only bidder.

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Adrian Full Member Offline Posts: 122 Joined: Mar 2^nd, 2015	Re: Stevens 47 DST .32 Ideal Reply #28 - May 4^th, 2015 at 6:55am	Print Post
	Thank you all for your replies. I now appreciate even better what i have. The action is very tight, it clicks and clacks when closing and opening. The bore is shiny and clean with strong rifling, the rifle shoots very well. What would the original buttplate be for this rifle? I am considering a Schoyen from CPA, in distressed plum brown, as long as i do not have to re-touch the stock. Thank you all.


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Stevens 47 DST .32 Ideal Reply #29 - May 4^th, 2015 at 8:05am	Print Post
	The 1898 catalog says the buttplate was "case hardened", by which I would assume cased in colors. The actual shape I can't say, as the catalog illustration is of an earlier model. (They often did this, to save the cost of a new engraving.) A Schoyen style plate would not be out of place at all.

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