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RoyB Oldtimer Offline Posts: 838 Location: Dartmouth, MA Joined: Mar 28^th, 2011	Does this frame look cased???? Mar 12^th, 2015 at 3:27pm	Print Post
	Does this frame on auction look like it was case hardened or was this done with a torch? It looks strange to me..... (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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Hi-Wall56 Full Member Offline Posts: 204 Location: Banks of the Brazos River Joined: Feb 11^th, 2011	Re: Does this frame look cased???? Reply #1 - Mar 12^th, 2015 at 4:21pm	Print Post
	My money says torch, without a doubt


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Bill Lawrence Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1037 Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014	Re: Does this frame look cased???? Reply #2 - Mar 12^th, 2015 at 6:03pm	Print Post
	Second vote for torching, though I will say it's a fair attempt at imitating the common Stevens "ripple" pattern. WJL


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Captain Bob Junior Member Offline Posts: 86 Joined: Mar 27^th, 2013	Re: Does this frame look cased???? Reply #3 - Mar 12^th, 2015 at 6:08pm	Print Post
	Torched!


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harry_eales Ex Member	Re: Does this frame look cased???? Reply #4 - Mar 12^th, 2015 at 8:01pm	Print Post
	Funnily I agree with everyone, definitely a torch job. Harry


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Deadeye Bly Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1059 Location: Stephens City Joined: Feb 25^th, 2011	Re: Does this frame look cased???? Reply #5 - Mar 12^th, 2015 at 8:15pm	Print Post
	I think that would be very difficult to do with a torch, but it does not look correct. I don't think it came out of the Stevens factory that way


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11474 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Does this frame look cased???? Reply #6 - Mar 12^th, 2015 at 9:08pm	Print Post
	I saw a thing on the boob toob last week about how they make reproduction Colt revolvers. They showed the frames being dipped in an etching solution and then were dipped in a salts. Think that's what they said. They said it was to make the parts look case hardened. It looked a lot better than the sample shown in the link. Soon as I saw the thing on TV I thought of the Italian reproductions. Pretty sure it was a program called "How It's Made" Joe.

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RoyB Oldtimer Offline Posts: 838 Location: Dartmouth, MA Joined: Mar 28^th, 2011	Re: Does this frame look cased???? Reply #7 - Mar 12^th, 2015 at 9:36pm	Print Post
	How is this "torching" done?

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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: Does this frame look cased???? Reply #8 - Mar 12^th, 2015 at 10:15pm	Print Post
	Not factory. Did not know you could do that with a torch.


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UtahDave Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 395 Location: Heber City, Utah Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010	Re: Does this frame look cased???? Reply #9 - Mar 12^th, 2015 at 10:45pm	Print Post
	10% Zebra!


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Chuckster Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2232 Location: Colorado Joined: May 15^th, 2008	Re: Does this frame look cased???? Reply #10 - Mar 12^th, 2015 at 10:57pm	Print Post
	Amateur torch job. Done well it is hard to tell the difference without a file. Chuck


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harry_eales Ex Member	Re: Does this frame look cased???? Reply #11 - Mar 13^th, 2015 at 4:44am	Print Post
	Fortunately there are very few of these 'torched' single shots around, this form of 'prettifying' is far more frequently found in double shotguns and is a source of constant annoyance with the double barrelled shotgun folks, who love their old side by sides, but hate it when they are torched. All the torch job does is show tempering colours, no hardening takes place at all. Fortunately this practice doesn't seem to occur in Britain,,,,, Yet. It doesn't take much practice with a fine tipped oxy acetylene torch to become fairly competent at it either. Harry


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harry_eales Ex Member	Re: Does this frame look cased???? Reply #12 - Mar 13^th, 2015 at 4:57am	Print Post
	westerner wrote on Mar 12^th, 2015 at 9:08pm: I saw a thing on the boob toob last week about how they make reproduction Colt revolvers. They showed the frames being dipped in an etching solution and then were dipped in a salts. Think that's what they said. They said it was to make the parts look case hardened. It looked a lot better than the sample shown in the link. Soon as I saw the thing on TV I thought of the Italian reproductions. Pretty sure it was a program called "How It's Made" Joe. I know that programme Joe, the salts you refer to are of molten Potassium or Sodium Cyanide. I wouldn't even want to be in the same building as that. Cyanide gas is what they used in the USA in the States that had execution by gas chambers. Not a nice way to die. Harry.


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Does this frame look cased???? Reply #13 - Mar 13^th, 2015 at 7:20am	Print Post
	Looks horrible. Nobody could mistake it for case hardening colors.

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graduated peep Ex Member	Re: Does this frame look cased???? Reply #14 - Mar 13^th, 2015 at 7:43am	Print Post
	RoyB wrote on Mar 12^th, 2015 at 9:36pm: How is this "torching" done? Probably done using an oxy-acetylene outfit with the smallest tip available. Then slowly and carefully using the flame like a "paint brush" to discolor the metal.


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