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Finding lost parts
Mar 5th, 2015 at 9:04pm
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The other day, I lost a part to my Miroku 1885, a hammer spring guide. - I found the spring, but the little nail-like guide has been elusive. I heard it hit something plastic on the far end of the shop, but that has been my only clue.

After a few days, I ordered a new part from Numrich Arms, as it wasn't expensive in any case.

My theory is that now that I have a replacement on the way, the elusive part will show itself. Most likely I'll step on it, and have to remove it from my foot or something like that.

Now I am much much more confident that the lost part will come to light.

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Reply #1 - Mar 5th, 2015 at 9:41pm
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A cow magnet taped to a dowel helps to find those small springs and pins that evade capture. Of course, it finds all those steel metal shavings and chips too.    Wink

  

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Reply #2 - Mar 5th, 2015 at 9:52pm
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A gunsmith was called into court as an expert witness.  The attorney, in order to establish credibility, asked him how long he had been a gunsmith, and he answered 28 years.   

Later, in cross examination, the defense attorney asked him "how many years of experience do you have gunsmithing?  He replied "23 years".  Immediately, the attorney jumped on the discrepancy, saying:  "you testified earlier that you had been a gunsmith for 28 years, now you say you have 23 years of experience; how do you account for the other 5 years?"

The fellow absolutely established his credibility when he replied:  "I spent those 5 years, down on my knees on the floor, looking for springs".

  
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Reply #3 - Mar 5th, 2015 at 10:58pm
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Several years back I was making a very small screw (1X72) and as I was parting it off I dropped it in the chip pan of the lathe. There was a guy watching as I started to make another screw he asked why I didn't look for the one I dropped. I told him it would be the smallest part in the chip pan and it would be much quicker to make a new one instead of looking for the one I dropped.
In a machine shop there are plenty of little curls of metal on the floor that look like springs. I try to keep plenty of new springs on hand because if I drop one a magnet will find everything except the spring I drop.
  

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Reply #4 - Mar 5th, 2015 at 11:11pm
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I had one of those moments yesterday as I was removing a broken bolt from an M1 carbine As I freed the bolt the broken lug fell completely off and the extractor spring guide went boing across the shop. 

By the grace of the almighty it bounced off the tank of the compressor many feet away and a quick sweep with a magnet recovered the guide....I was bloody lucky!

I couldnt even guess how many detent balls are rolling around in the shop from cross slide safeties
  

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Reply #5 - Mar 5th, 2015 at 11:17pm
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John, I feel for you for dropping things  into the chip pan as you part them off.  One solution that I have found and use regularly is, I believe, a tea strainer. It is a small screen mesh strainer with a handle on it. In making screw in scope caps I don't want the threads damages when they fall after being parted off. I just slide the strainer under the part when I near the end of the cut and it falls right in. Yes you get a few chips in there but it beats the heck out of sifting through the chips to find a part. 
Hope this is of help to you.
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Reply #6 - Mar 11th, 2015 at 2:24pm
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On the lathe, I have used a paper plate in the past to catch objects being parted.

I never found my lost part, it only has another few days to show up before the replacement I ordered appears. In the mean-time I have made a special tool to install the part with, and next time I'll put a bag or box in the line of fire, in case the new one goes flying too.



  
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Reply #7 - Mar 11th, 2015 at 6:35pm
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Western Gun Parts Ltd.

Collects old firearms parts around the world.
They have parts that others may not have.

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Reply #8 - Mar 11th, 2015 at 7:35pm
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Dave,
Do they have a parts list (I couldn't find one) or do you have to call them with what you need?

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Reply #9 - Mar 11th, 2015 at 7:50pm
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They sell a catalogue to gun dealers and gunsmiths.

For an occasional buyer, it is best to have all the necessary information about your part and give them a call. They will search their catalogue for you.

I could pick the item up for you and bring to Tommys in May.
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Reply #10 - Mar 11th, 2015 at 10:57pm
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I ordered the part from Numrich Arms, have been working with them for close to 40 years now.

  
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Reply #11 - Mar 12th, 2015 at 12:05am
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Drop a live primer on the floor then commence searching for it. You'll find the part you lost.

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Reply #12 - Mar 12th, 2015 at 8:44am
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Once it hits the floor - it's gone.....
  
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Reply #13 - Mar 12th, 2015 at 9:01am
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There's a five second rule... If you don't find it in five seconds, you probably won't find it until it doesn't matter any more.

  
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Reply #14 - Mar 13th, 2015 at 2:29pm
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Three years since I lost the ball and spring out of a Timney trigger.

Found the ball. Maybe within three years the spring will show up.
  
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