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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3982 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Which moulds for .22 ? Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 9:19am	Print Post
	I'm just starting to get serious with the .22's. (Hornet, 221 and 223). Which moulds for plain-base? (I have several for GC, but need insight for the PB variety.) [GC in 22 are a pita!]

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rkaires Frequent Elocutionist Offline No Stronger Bond Posts: 1671 Location: Dingmans Ferry, PA Joined: Oct 26^th, 2012	Re: Which moulds for .22 ? Reply #1 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 10:42am	Print Post
	This is a mould that B. Darr makes. Its a 70gr tapered spitzer. .225 on the base band.

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rkaires Frequent Elocutionist Offline No Stronger Bond Posts: 1671 Location: Dingmans Ferry, PA Joined: Oct 26^th, 2012	Re: Which moulds for .22 ? Reply #2 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 10:48am	Print Post
	Here's a 68gr Pope style bullet NOE is making. They make it in both GC and PB. I spoke to them recently and was told they will be doing a run of plan base moulds this spring. I may pick one up myself to try in my .22WCF.

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.22-5-40 Oldtimer Offline Posts: 826 Joined: Feb 13^th, 2010	Re: Which moulds for .22 ? Reply #3 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 1:00pm	Print Post
	You didn't specify twist, but my Hornet is 1-14" I had Fred leeth make up nose-pour copy of the old Ideal 22636 in both G.C. & plain-base @ 52grs. These are not tapered and are for fixed ammo. If shooting fixed, I found the most improvement in accuracy was to taper 1st. band in a die I made to fit std. lube-sizer to match leade angle. This band is fully engraved as action closes. Best of luck, the .22's are fun!


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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3982 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Which moulds for .22 ? Reply #4 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 4:54pm	Print Post
	Looks like some good choices. (correct I did not specify the twist - 4 rifles to start with, expect that I have more than one twist rate, will check soon) The 22636 (from castpicks: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)) looks similar to the Pope style pictured previously). I like the concept of the Lovern style. Took the CZ527, TC Contender (21" bbl), Carl Walther (with double set trigger) and an H&R handi rifle to the range this afternoon. The Walther did the best (with the lightest loads too) and the CZ was second (with the hottest loads). I was playing with two vintages of the 225415 - the smallest (oldest) did the best. This was trip #1 to the range, LOTS more before any conclusions are drawn.

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Larry D Full Member Offline Posts: 164 Location: Ventura ca. Joined: Jan 12^th, 2013	Re: Which moulds for .22 ? Reply #5 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 5:41pm	Print Post
	What is the max speed for tc leas bullets? Larry


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Larry D Full Member Offline Posts: 164 Location: Ventura ca. Joined: Jan 12^th, 2013	Re: Which moulds for .22 ? Reply #6 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 5:42pm	Print Post
	Tc bullets. Larry


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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3982 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Which moulds for .22 ? Reply #7 - Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 7:39pm	Print Post
	Larry D wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 5:41pm: What is the max speed for tc lead bullets? Larry the CZ & TC are in .223, with the 225415 over 6.5, 7.0 and, 7.5 gr of Green Dot. from the book, 24" bbl, 6.2 = 1885fps and 9.2 = 2270fps. The Walther and the H&R in 22 Hornet, with the 225415 over 3.0, 3.5, and 4.0gr of Green Dot. Where, from the Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook, 2.5 gives 1350fps and 4.2 gives 1765. I shot not quite a hundred rounds, good start on getting to loading cast in .22's. I repeat, GC's in .22 are a PITA!

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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3982 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Which moulds for .22 ? Reply #8 - Jan 4^th, 2015 at 9:04am	Print Post
	.22-5-40 wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2015 at 1:00pm: You didn't specify twist, but my Hornet is 1-14" I had Fred leeth make up nose-pour copy of the old Ideal 22636 in both G.C. & plain-base @ 52grs. These are not tapered and are for fixed ammo. If shooting fixed, I found the most improvement in accuracy was to taper 1st. band in a die I made to fit std. lube-sizer to match leade angle. This band is fully engraved as action closes. Best of luck, the .22's are fun! How did you make the die? Pictures? (I have a lathe and a mill.)

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QuestionableMaynard8130 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4144 Location: Benton Harbor MI Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Which moulds for .22 ? Reply #9 - Jan 4^th, 2015 at 8:25pm	Print Post
	NOE makes a bunch of them. Swede does a big business in group buy designs with the "CastBoolit" bunch. here's a link to their on-line store where he sells over production and production runs of popular designs. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3982 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Which moulds for .22 ? Reply #10 - Jan 4^th, 2015 at 10:11pm	Print Post
	QuestionableMaynard8130 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2015 at 8:25pm: NOE makes a bunch of them. Swede does a big business in group buy designs with the "CastBoolit" bunch. here's a link to their on-line store where he sells over production and production runs of popular designs. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) I've seen the page - impressive collection! need more experience here to be able to flip the coin!

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JS47 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1265 Location: Arizona Joined: Oct 12^th, 2012	Re: Which moulds for .22 ? Reply #11 - Jan 4^th, 2015 at 10:52pm	Print Post
	How did you make the die? Pictures? (I have a lathe and a mill.) [/quote] It's easy enough to make a sizing die body and taper it with a throating reamer, if you have a throating reamer that is. JS


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.22-5-40 Oldtimer Offline Posts: 826 Joined: Feb 13^th, 2010	Re: Which moulds for .22 ? Reply #12 - Jan 5^th, 2015 at 6:48pm	Print Post
	At the time, I was working in a fully equipped tool room. Turned up die and after H.T., I.D. ground angle.


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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3982 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Which moulds for .22 ? Reply #13 - Jan 6^th, 2015 at 9:23am	Print Post
	.22-5-40 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2015 at 6:48pm: At the time, I was working in a fully equipped tool room. Turned up die and after H.T., I.D. ground angle. Understand; thanks. I think my design will be for use with an arbor press (Schmidt) and made simply on the lathe.

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