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Dec 27th, 2014 at 6:24am
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Did you ever make a discovery on your own, immediately followed by a strong feeling that everybody else already knows about it?

When trying out a new bullet for my 1885 high wall, I seated the bullet way out too far in the case, then stuck the cartridge into the chamber, where of course it would not go in all of the way.

Using the depth-measurer at the bottom of my dial calipers, I measured the distance from the back of the protruding cartridge to the face of the chamber. (Back of the barrel) - and that was how much further I needed to seat that bullet.

I felt mighty clever for a few minutes there, before realizing that the practice is most likely over one hundred years old.

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Reply #1 - Dec 27th, 2014 at 8:12am
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Am shooting only fixed ammo and find the Arizona Sharpshooter's cartridge loading tool an indispensable part of my gear at the line. 3 of the 4 loads I shoot are too long to be chambered without help and I just "lever them in" with the cartridge loading tool. As close to breech-seating as one can get without actually doing so. Made a quite noticeable improvement in consistent accuracy.
  

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Reply #2 - Dec 27th, 2014 at 9:55am
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As an engineer, I know that if I think of it, someone else has already done that, developed it, and it's on the market.  (Therefore buy it rather than make it!)
  

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Reply #3 - Dec 27th, 2014 at 2:31pm
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As an engineer, I don't buy anything that i can make---it is all part of the fun in the hobby!
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Reply #4 - Dec 27th, 2014 at 4:52pm
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Fred Boulton wrote on Dec 27th, 2014 at 2:31pm:
As an engineer, I don't buy anything that i can make---it is all part of the fun in the hobby!
Fred

The fun of designing and building your own "better mousetrap".

  

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Reply #5 - Dec 27th, 2014 at 4:59pm
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Fred Boulton wrote on Dec 27th, 2014 at 2:31pm:
As an engineer, I don't buy anything that i can make---it is all part of the fun in the hobby!
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I like that challenge as well; but most often the pressures of 'production' dictate the amount of time I don't have to devote to each project.  On the other hand, if I can design or program something that has long-term paybacks it gets built locally.

  

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Reply #6 - Dec 27th, 2014 at 7:28pm
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For my part, I'm new to single-shot rifles and am still discovering the various perks involved. The ease of determining the seating depth for bullets was something that was unexpected. 

I only do two things with rifles; Informal target shooting and occasional hunting. My single shot seems ideal for my use.
  
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Reply #7 - Dec 27th, 2014 at 8:53pm
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I had a brilliant idea once. I was in the process of borrowing my brother's one ton cab over camper. We were inside it and he was explaining to me that you had to have the camper level for the gas fridge to work. That's when I had the idea. I said rather than use a straight level why don't they make one that is round and then you could set it on the top of the fridge and see instantly if the thing was level. He opened a drawer and handed me one just like I described. Oh well. That was over forty years ago. I haven't invented anything since.
  
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Reply #8 - Dec 28th, 2014 at 7:33am
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I had an original idea that worked out well, but it's not gun related at all. (Associated with digital radio communications)

I was going to pioneer setting up a short-action bolt rifle for .450 Marlin, but Steyr beat me to it.

I'm going ahead with the idea anyway, now I'm trying to do it for significantly less money than Steyr is asking for their Big Bore Hunter, by utilizing a Savage model 16 action.

  
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Reply #9 - Dec 28th, 2014 at 9:26am
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The mistake we all make is that because they didn’t have all the modern convinces that they were ignorant, nothing could be further from the truth. We are the drooling idiots because with college degrees and computers and digital machinery the best we can do is recreate what they did with a foot treadle lathe and a file. 

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Reply #10 - Dec 28th, 2014 at 9:28am
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I think one of the charms/attractions of the single shot game as we tend to practice it is that it, by its very nature, brings together a bunch of creative people who all march to the beat of a different saxophone Wink
  

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Reply #11 - Dec 28th, 2014 at 11:46am
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there are many very talented people who could do beautiful custom and hand work, not just on firearms but most of us cant or wont pay for all the hand labor.   art
  
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Reply #12 - Dec 28th, 2014 at 5:25pm
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40_Rod wrote on Dec 28th, 2014 at 9:26am:
The mistake we all make is that because they didn’t have all the modern convinces that they were ignorant, nothing could be further from the truth. We are the drooling idiots because with college degrees and computers and digital machinery the best we can do is recreate what they did with a foot treadle lathe and a file. 

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Re: Up to the Lands
Reply #13 - Dec 28th, 2014 at 9:39pm
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For my part, I'm new to single-shot rifles and am still discovering the various perks involved. The ease of determining the seating depth for bullets was something that was unexpected. 

I only do two things with rifles; Informal target shooting and occasional hunting. My single shot seems ideal for my use.


Your method for determining at what point your bullets touch the lands is a good one. Good job. Should work perfect for the type of shooting you do. I'm hoping it gets old for you soon.  We can always use more shooters at the matches. That's where things get interesting.  Wink


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Reply #14 - Dec 30th, 2014 at 8:33pm
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My brother shot in the BPCR matches for years, but I am not sure if he still does, we are both getting on in years and he is even older than I am. 

I'll probably never get to, I live in an isolated desert community and cannot get away to travel. So far, I have only met one other shooter out here who owns a single shot, a nice low wall in 218 Bee, but I've only seen him one time at the gun club.

I used to shoot competitively years ago, shooting bullseye matches with a Smith & Wesson in 44 special against guys with Colt 45 Autos. 

Seems like a very nice bunch here, I would enjoy shooting with any of the fellows that I have heard from here. The guns are fascinating, real beauties.

  
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