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Brudford01 Full Member Offline Posts: 196 Location: Beaver Falls PA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	CPA Rifle Owners Dec 12^th, 2014 at 4:33pm	Print Post
	Are CPA barrels free floated for accuracy , or at least are the forearms glass bed ?


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ron Oldtimer Offline Posts: 579 Location: Augusta Maine Joined: Nov 15^th, 2009	Re: CPA Rifle Owners Reply #1 - Dec 12^th, 2014 at 4:36pm	Print Post
	They are not free floated or glass beaded. ron


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Brudford01 Full Member Offline Posts: 196 Location: Beaver Falls PA Joined: May 18^th, 2008	Re: CPA Rifle Owners Reply #2 - Dec 12^th, 2014 at 4:48pm	Print Post
	Did not know that ! If a barrel is not bedded stress free or free floated accuracy will suffer as barrel cools and heats up, and also while resting the forearm on a rest different areas of the wood forearm will contact the barrel at low and high spots .I may have to think again about ordering a CPA rifle . Thanks


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blk43 Junior Member Offline Posts: 69 Location: Lodi, California Joined: Apr 26^th, 2008	Re: CPA Rifle Owners Reply #3 - Dec 12^th, 2014 at 5:08pm	Print Post
	Most CPA shooters that I see either shoot off the barrel resting on a Protector leather fitted sandbag or use a sled mounted between 2 and 7 inches from the muzzle. The accuracy lost by not "bedding" is miniscule to the time it takes to learn to read the wind and conditions. These are inherently accurate rifles depending on the shooters load development and bench management of his rifle. Don't let your forend concerns prevent a purchase. Just my 2 cents. Bruce

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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2944 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: CPA Rifle Owners Reply #4 - Dec 12^th, 2014 at 5:51pm	Print Post
	Brudford01 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2014 at 4:48pm: Did not know that ! If a barrel is not bedded stress free or free floated accuracy will suffer as barrel cools and heats up, and also while resting the forearm on a rest different areas of the wood forearm will contact the barrel at low and high spots .I may have to think again about ordering a CPA rifle . Thanks You might ask Jerry_H. He recently shot another quarter-bore 250. Think he shoots a CPA. The top two places in BPCR open sights at Raton this year were won with CPA rifles. They were also well represented in the .22BPCR silhouette matches.

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rkaires Frequent Elocutionist Offline No Stronger Bond Posts: 1674 Location: Dingmans Ferry, PA Joined: Oct 26^th, 2012	Re: CPA Rifle Owners Reply #5 - Dec 12^th, 2014 at 6:10pm	Print Post
	Hi brudford, There are plenty of CPA owners who would beg to differ. Many on this site have numerous 250's and match honors. I advise you do your research before making a decision. Regards, Bob

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boats Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7763 Location: Virginia Joined: Apr 23^rd, 2004	Re: CPA Rifle Owners Reply #6 - Dec 12^th, 2014 at 6:19pm	Print Post
	Glass is good for skinny barrel high velocity rifles. CPA's with # 4 barrels are not going to flex off bags when fired with typical Schuetzen cartridges. I rest mine on the barrel anyhow. You could have one glassed if you wanted too. CPA will hang the forearm anyway the buyer wants. Beware though complicated forearm set up's have been a source of trouble with many single shot rifles. Main upgrade with Ruger # 1's is tweak the forearm. Boats


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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 2720 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: CPA Rifle Owners Reply #7 - Dec 12^th, 2014 at 7:13pm	Print Post
	Bruford, one look at the targets shot in matches with CPA rifles, particularly by guys like Gerry H, and John L should convince you that these rifles are capable of extreme accuracy. Do some searching on 250's shot in matches on this forum. Chris.


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colo native Oldtimer Offline Posts: 760 Location: Barren Ridge, Va Joined: Dec 27^th, 2007	Re: CPA Rifle Owners Reply #8 - Dec 12^th, 2014 at 7:34pm	Print Post
	I always find these threads SO interesting, fer sur...


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JackHughs Oldtimer Offline Posts: 657 Location: Riverbank Joined: Sep 27^th, 2008	Re: CPA Rifle Owners Reply #9 - Dec 12^th, 2014 at 7:39pm	Print Post
	Hi Bruford, Here's a picture of a .32-20 CPA resting on the forearm. It shoots OK. JackHughs

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7767 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: CPA Rifle Owners Reply #10 - Dec 12^th, 2014 at 8:26pm	Print Post
	Please don't worry about a floated barrel as there are NO floated SS barrels. At least, I've never seen one. Unless the scope is some how mounted ONLY on the frame of the action, it can't be done at least with a scope. The forearm can be floated but, the only real thing that you have to worry about is to make sure the forearm has a slight gap to the frame. You need to be able to slide a piece of paper between them. There are other things you can do to make sure the forearm is insolated from the barrel but, if it has a even contact along the barrel channel, it should shoot with most other guys, CPA/Stevens, HW, Borchardt or any of them. Frank

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John Boy Ex Member	Re: CPA Rifle Owners Reply #11 - Dec 12^th, 2014 at 9:25pm	Print Post
	With the large diameter CPA barrels, on the scale of importance determining ones harmonic null point for each of the given loads by caliber is substantially more advantageous to accuracy than a floating or bedded barrel And if one wants to get picky with the barrel resting on the forearm - just put a rubber O ring under the forearm screw to let the barrel "float"


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UtahDave Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 396 Location: Heber City, Utah Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010	Re: CPA Rifle Owners Reply #12 - Dec 12^th, 2014 at 11:42pm	Print Post
	Very interesting topic. I have been thinking of glass bedding my bench rest forearm on my 32-40. I've just about finished the sanding and oiling. Maybe I should first see how it fits to the barrel using some blacking. Any thoughts? Dave


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Schuetzendave Frequent Elocutionist Offline Retired Ex-Shooter Posts: 4265 Location: St. Albert, Alberta Joined: Jan 28^th, 2005	Re: CPA Rifle Owners Reply #13 - Dec 13^th, 2014 at 12:47am	Print Post
	I have glass bedded a .218 Bee, .32-40, .40-60 Maynard, .40-65 WCF, and .45-70 WCF half octagon and round CPA barrels. The bedded barrels shot extremely well. I left a space between the end of the forearm and the receiver wall when I glass bedded the forearms. Bedded forearms will not shift and cause different vibrations between shots. Most people have no problems shooting CPAs without bedding the forearm, however you can fine tune her by bedding the forearm.


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JerryW Participating Member Offline Posts: 46 Location: Jackson, CA Joined: Jun 4^th, 2006	Re: CPA Rifle Owners Reply #14 - Dec 13^th, 2014 at 9:48am	Print Post
	JackHughs, the master of understatement. JerryW


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